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== Is this Wiki dead or something? ==
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There’s been no wiki news for years, and apparently there are still Migration Problems going on 3 years later. Is everything dead? Is this place fixable? Please someone explain to me.
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-Harry_Robinson
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:Dead, no. Grossly under-resourced since eg: lots of people are volunteers with sometimes limited interest and/or time due to their studies, yes. [[User:UmbralRaptor|UmbralRaptor]] ([[User talk:UmbralRaptor|talk]]) 03:07, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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Oh. Thanks for the reply though. I’m gonna try to help out then; I’d feel bad if I didn’t after how much this wiki has helped me over the years.
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== With every update coming out, it takes so long to create pages for new content ==
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It's October 27 now, 3 weeks since KSP 0.25 release. Does it take that long to create dedicated wiki pages for new parts and stock craft? I ended up starting some stubs for the new 0.25 parts.<small>— [[User:Deepspacecreeper|Deepspacecreeper]] ([[User talk:Deepspacecreeper|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deepspacecreeper|contribs]]) 8:27pm, 27 October 2014‎ (PDT)</small>
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:I've already a bot which creates all those infoboxes. In theory (if I find the time) it could also create stub part pages so other authors can expand them easier. But currently I haven't time to add that but hopefully with the next release this is going to work. But apart from that, someone has to create them so why not you as you now did? It took some time but if nobody had found the time/muse to do I can't command others to add pages ;) . — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 13:58, 30 October 2014 (CDT)
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== The Wiki has become extremely sluggish and laggy ==
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Yep, something is wrong, and it's diminishing my edit output. <small>— Preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:HamShanky|HamShanky]] ([[User talk:HamShanky|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/HamShanky|contribs]]) 01:03, 20 September 2014‎ (UTC)</small>
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:Hmmm it looks for me not worse than prior to the maintenance. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 04:25, 20 September 2014 (CDT) (10 hrs later)
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:If it's now better, please let us know. Maybe the wiki was actually laggy 10 hours ago. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 04:27, 20 September 2014 (CDT)
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::It is now not laggy, I only have to wait 2 seconds compared to 2 minutes or looking at a 500 error. It's better now. --[[User:HamShanky|HamShanky]] ([[User talk:HamShanky|talk]]) 21:25, 21 September 2014 (CDT)
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:::Could be that there was additional stress on the servers shortly after they have become available again. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 03:46, 23 September 2014 (CDT)
  
 
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Could we get an update?  There are two new planets now, and I imagine people are being turned away if the wiki looks that outdated.
 
Could we get an update?  There are two new planets now, and I imagine people are being turned away if the wiki looks that outdated.
  
== New Wiki section Encyclopedia of Space Travel terms and topics related to KSP ("Encyclopedia" for short) ==
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== Recent events wrong dates ==
  
Considering everyone's desire to add pages defining every single concept and term used in KSP or this Wiki, we might want to make a section dedicated to that.
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Recent event for 1.2.2 is incorrect, stated as 1 Nov 2016, should be 6 Dec 2016.  Front page is semi-protected, soI can't change it.
  
This would include some pages that contain lists of terms, but also have some pages dedicated to a single term of worthy note, like [[rocket engine]] or [[jet engine]].  
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Recent events 0.19 and 0.18 dates are wrong as they were released in 2012. Someone with more info about those could fix the dates <small>— Preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tuupertunut|Tuupertunut]] ([[User talk:Tuupertunut|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tuupertunut|contribs]])</small>
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:That is not correct. 0.18.2 was released 2012 but every update after that was released 2013. I've been playing KSP since December 2012 with 0.18.2. Also [[version history#v0.18.3 .28Demo.29]] agrees with me. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 10:24, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
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::Strange. I have started in 0.19 and remember reading somewhere from this wiki that 0.19 was released in August/September 2012. Could have been a mistake in wiki or in my head, but anyways you seem right. - [[User:Tuupertunut|Tuupertunut]] ([[User talk:Tuupertunut|talk]]) 18:12, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
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:::Here is the working link for the release of 0.19: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/content/148 — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 19:42, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
  
Each term should mainly be documented in context to its use in KSP, but for educational purposes would also include contrasting to real world rocketry and space travel, and a link to the usually more detailed, and technical, Wikipedia article on the real world equivalent.
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== Name change of the wiki? ==
  
The goal here would be to provide both a knowledge base, make it easier to read and write documentation (not having to worry about vocabulary issues), and to provide a way to make learning the game via this wiki a fun educational exploration of the concepts around space travel.
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I'm just thinking, maybe rename the kerbal space program wiki to Kerbapedia?Just a suggestion. --[[User:Mozziedoo|Mozziedoo]] ([[User talk:Mozziedoo|talk]]) 03:17, 6 February 2014 (CST)
  
The easy way to expand this over time is simple: If you are a regular contributor, maintainer or moderator, and have to look up a term, and it's not in the encyclopedia, it should be recommended add it in the appropriate place in the encyclopedia.
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== Fan-made Tool section ==
  
The end goal of this project should be that exploring the documentation on this Wiki and learning about space travel in the process of planning your next KSP should be as fun and captivating as playing KSP.  This will encourage users to spend hours planning fun and complex missions, and really learning about space travel in the process. <small>— Preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ruedii|Ruedii]] ([[User talk:Ruedii|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Ruedii|contribs]])</small>
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There's plenty of online tools for calculations related to the game (orbits, Δv etc.) and there isn't a forum thread or wiki page that has at least a rudimentary list of them, which I think would be beneficial. If it's ok, I'd like to make one here on the wiki for inclusion on the main page (as it seems the logical place to put it imho) - I don't think the forum would be ideal for this as it would require me (or whoever creates the thread) to be the sole maintainer, unlike the wiki. --[[User:MechaLynx|MechaLynx]] ([[User talk:MechaLynx|talk]]) 22:40, 10 April 2014 (CDT)
:Do you mean some kind of general "table of contents", split up into sections (mathematic terms, part types, spacecraft types, guides, etc.)? Because what you are saying is basically the purpose of this wiki. There is however no central "starting place", that is true. --[[User:Dgelessus|dgelessus]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Dgelessus|talk]]&nbsp;&middot;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dgelessus|contribs]])</sup> 15:46, 29 July 2013 (CDT)
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:Go ahead and create such a repository. There was actually such a list, although pretty short, on [[addon]]. Now it was removed, because the lists on there weren't really maintained, but you can find it [http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/w/index.php?title=Addon&oldid=32512#Tools_and_applications here]. If it's good I'll add it to the main page. You can also add a link to [[Tutorials]]. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 10:01, 12 April 2014 (CDT)
:Hmmm, there is already [[terminology]] with quite a list of terms. Although many pages are lacking categories which automatically would generate a list of terms of that kind (like [[:Category:Physics]]?). Also you can search easily for a term (which would I define as “starting place”), so if you wondering how liquid fuel engines work, you can search for that. Of course if it is missing but you think there should be one and you have no idea about this topic (that why you were searching it here) it is hard to let other (maybe experienced) editors know about that missing article. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 16:22, 29 July 2013 (CDT)
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::I've started working on it, should be done within the next couple of days, time permitting. I'd like to delay posting a link until it's ready if that's ok. (edit: I just realised it's super easy to get a link lol :P was just worried about trollish interference, but I guess that's a moot point now) --[[User:MechaLynx|MechaLynx]] ([[User talk:MechaLynx|talk]]) 21:39, 14 April 2014 (CDT)
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::Uh, dude the page has been ready for some while now. I know you're busy but it's just standing there being useless. I'll add a link to [[Tutorials]] soon so that there's at least something linking to it (I think it's good enough to be linked somewhere on the wiki, but I won't add a link on the main page unless you or some other mature member does so). --[[User:MechaLynx|MechaLynx]] ([[User talk:MechaLynx|talk]]) 10:04, 29 April 2014 (CDT)
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:::So I've added your two articles. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 13:06, 29 April 2014 (CDT)
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::::Thanks mate. I only made one article though :P Is it ok if I announce it on the forums so that tool authors know that it's there? --[[User:MechaLynx|MechaLynx]] ([[User talk:MechaLynx|talk]]) 19:07, 29 April 2014 (CDT)
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:::::Ah I though you were talking about [[addon]]. Either way they are now up there. And about the forum, do as you like. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 12:44, 30 April 2014 (CDT)
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::::::No problem. I actually just made an edit to [[addon]] that I wanted to make a while ago :P might be putting some work on addon information in the future now that I've lost my mediawiki virginity :P --[[User:MechaLynx|MechaLynx]] ([[User talk:MechaLynx|talk]]) 21:17, 30 April 2014 (CDT)
  
::While it could be handled by various methods, either using the category system, or even using a separate wiki namespaces.  The articles would obviously use a separate standard for writing method than for the direct game reference, as it would focus on general concepts, theories and terminology to provide the user with a better understanding of the general concepts behind space flight, as opposed to focusing on the information about the in-game assets in KSP, and functioning as a reference guide. The pages would have a generally different writing style than the in-game asset ones.  However, as you mentioned, we may want to work on better organizing what we have before setting a roadmap to flush it out with new stuff. Do you think I should write a roadmap for better organization, and adding of category systems. I'll probably place it in my user namespace until it's flushed out, then see about moving it. Generally what I am proposing does, as the two of you suggested, consist of organizing the information we have, making it easier to find, setting more detailed standards and templates for future material, and flushing it out with more information.--[[User:Ruedii|Ruedii]] ([[User talk:Ruedii|talk]]) 22:54, 29 July 2013 (CDT)
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== Release Dates1.2.2 ==
  
== KSP's Extended Community ==
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Main Page lists the release date of 1.2.2 bugfix patch as Nov 1, 2016.<br />
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Release notes lists release date of 1.2.2 bugfix patch as Dec 6, 2016.<br />
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Would love to fix, but I'm apparently not 'established'...<br />
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--[[User:Moorepiepoopstain|Moorepiepoopstain]] ([[User talk:Moorepiepoopstain|talk]]) 03:10, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
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:: Looks like this was taken care of back in December. [[User:UmbralRaptor|UmbralRaptor]] ([[User talk:UmbralRaptor|talk]]) 02:03, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  
There's the forum of course, and some parts of it could definitely use to get more attention than they currently do, but there are also lots of other places KSPers congregate, two semi-official IRC channels, the reddit, those other social sites... Some of these would be a good addition to the main page, for others it may be appropriate to have a listing page, but it'll need to be curated and I don't imagine that will be particularly fun.
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== Question ==
  
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HOW THE HECK DO I DELETE AN ACCOUNT?
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:: You'll want to contact an admin, particularly if it's your own account or to point us at a spammer to ban. I am available in the #KSPOfficial IRC channel on esper.net much of the time, and there's also a wiki section on the forum. [[User:UmbralRaptor|UmbralRaptor]] ([[User talk:UmbralRaptor|talk]]) 02:03, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
  
* IRC://IRC.Esper.net/KSPOfficial - I don't go here, but I here it's a silly place
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== Add news ==
* IRC://IRC.Esper.net/KSPModders - Definitely a silly place, but a hugely useful resource in all levels of modding
 
* http://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram
 
  
--[[User:Greys|Greys]] ([[User talk:Greys|talk]]) 00:48, 16 September 2013 (CDT)
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1.4, tentatively named AWAY WITH WORDS: MKII, has been released.
:May I ask why you post this here? Do you want those links added to the Main Page? [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 06:06, 16 September 2013 (CDT)
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:: I did so in the ''recent events'' section before this was posted? [[User:UmbralRaptor|UmbralRaptor]] ([[User talk:UmbralRaptor|talk]]) 18:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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:: The version history is not yet updated.
  
::I couldn't think of a better place to ask and I do think the IRC channels should be on the main page. I also couldn't think of enough that I'm familiar with to immediately justify a whole page, and as you've probably noticed I'm fairly inexperienced at wiki life, so I try to avoid making edits to important live pages without consulting 'the elders'
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== How to edit data list ==
  
::--[[User:Greys|Greys]] ([[User talk:Greys|talk]]) 14:43, 16 September 2013 (CDT)
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In the version of the game I have, the Stratus-V RCS tanks are made by Stratus Corporation, not found by the side of the road. How do I change this?
  
== comment ==
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== Making History Expansion ==
  
Having been a lurker here for a while, and snooping for useful info, I have found the tutorials pretty good. But the direct users guide kind of game play descriptions not as well organized. Such as how to use the Settings Menu or the Nav ball should be more prominently displayed. I would like to make some edits, but would like some discussion or feed back first.[[User:Lefick|Lefick]] ([[User talk:Lefick|talk]]) 15:07, 20 September 2013 (CDT)
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How do we let people visually see that a page is about the Making History expansion and not the stock game?
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Do we use a notice box and mention it in the first line of the page? --[[User:ArnePeirs|Olympic1]] ([[User talk:ArnePeirs|talk]]) 00:31, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
  
== Recent events wrong dates ==
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sure --[[User:KerbMaster]] ([[User talk:KerbMaster|talk]]) 18:38, March 14, 2018 (EST)
 
 
Recent events 0.19 and 0.18 dates are wrong as they were released in 2012. Someone with more info about those could fix the dates <small>— Preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tuupertunut|Tuupertunut]] ([[User talk:Tuupertunut|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tuupertunut|contribs]])</small>
 
:That is not correct. 0.18.2 was released 2012 but every update after that was released 2013. I've been playing KSP since December 2012 with 0.18.2. Also [[version history#v0.18.3 .28Demo.29]] agrees with me. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 10:24, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
 
::Strange. I have started in 0.19 and remember reading somewhere from this wiki that 0.19 was released in August/September 2012. Could have been a mistake in wiki or in my head, but anyways you seem right. - [[User:Tuupertunut|Tuupertunut]] ([[User talk:Tuupertunut|talk]]) 18:12, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
 
:::Here is the working link for the release of 0.19: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/content/148 — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 19:42, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
 

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Is this Wiki dead or something?

There’s been no wiki news for years, and apparently there are still Migration Problems going on 3 years later. Is everything dead? Is this place fixable? Please someone explain to me.

-Harry_Robinson

Dead, no. Grossly under-resourced since eg: lots of people are volunteers with sometimes limited interest and/or time due to their studies, yes. UmbralRaptor (talk) 03:07, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks for the reply though. I’m gonna try to help out then; I’d feel bad if I didn’t after how much this wiki has helped me over the years.

With every update coming out, it takes so long to create pages for new content

It's October 27 now, 3 weeks since KSP 0.25 release. Does it take that long to create dedicated wiki pages for new parts and stock craft? I ended up starting some stubs for the new 0.25 parts.Deepspacecreeper (talkcontribs) 8:27pm, 27 October 2014‎ (PDT)

I've already a bot which creates all those infoboxes. In theory (if I find the time) it could also create stub part pages so other authors can expand them easier. But currently I haven't time to add that but hopefully with the next release this is going to work. But apart from that, someone has to create them so why not you as you now did? It took some time but if nobody had found the time/muse to do I can't command others to add pages ;) . — xZise [talk] 13:58, 30 October 2014 (CDT)

The Wiki has become extremely sluggish and laggy

Yep, something is wrong, and it's diminishing my edit output. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HamShanky (talkcontribs) 01:03, 20 September 2014‎ (UTC)

Hmmm it looks for me not worse than prior to the maintenance. — xZise [talk] 04:25, 20 September 2014 (CDT) (10 hrs later)
If it's now better, please let us know. Maybe the wiki was actually laggy 10 hours ago. — xZise [talk] 04:27, 20 September 2014 (CDT)
It is now not laggy, I only have to wait 2 seconds compared to 2 minutes or looking at a 500 error. It's better now. --HamShanky (talk) 21:25, 21 September 2014 (CDT)
Could be that there was additional stress on the servers shortly after they have become available again. — xZise [talk] 03:46, 23 September 2014 (CDT)

CoolNavBoxes are out of date

Could we get an update? There are two new planets now, and I imagine people are being turned away if the wiki looks that outdated.

Recent events wrong dates

Recent event for 1.2.2 is incorrect, stated as 1 Nov 2016, should be 6 Dec 2016. Front page is semi-protected, soI can't change it.

Recent events 0.19 and 0.18 dates are wrong as they were released in 2012. Someone with more info about those could fix the dates — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuupertunut (talkcontribs)

That is not correct. 0.18.2 was released 2012 but every update after that was released 2013. I've been playing KSP since December 2012 with 0.18.2. Also version history#v0.18.3 .28Demo.29 agrees with me. — xZise [talk] 10:24, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
Strange. I have started in 0.19 and remember reading somewhere from this wiki that 0.19 was released in August/September 2012. Could have been a mistake in wiki or in my head, but anyways you seem right. - Tuupertunut (talk) 18:12, 22 October 2013 (CDT)
Here is the working link for the release of 0.19: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/content/148xZise [talk] 19:42, 22 October 2013 (CDT)

Name change of the wiki?

I'm just thinking, maybe rename the kerbal space program wiki to Kerbapedia?Just a suggestion. --Mozziedoo (talk) 03:17, 6 February 2014 (CST)

Fan-made Tool section

There's plenty of online tools for calculations related to the game (orbits, Δv etc.) and there isn't a forum thread or wiki page that has at least a rudimentary list of them, which I think would be beneficial. If it's ok, I'd like to make one here on the wiki for inclusion on the main page (as it seems the logical place to put it imho) - I don't think the forum would be ideal for this as it would require me (or whoever creates the thread) to be the sole maintainer, unlike the wiki. --MechaLynx (talk) 22:40, 10 April 2014 (CDT)

Go ahead and create such a repository. There was actually such a list, although pretty short, on addon. Now it was removed, because the lists on there weren't really maintained, but you can find it here. If it's good I'll add it to the main page. You can also add a link to Tutorials. — xZise [talk] 10:01, 12 April 2014 (CDT)
I've started working on it, should be done within the next couple of days, time permitting. I'd like to delay posting a link until it's ready if that's ok. (edit: I just realised it's super easy to get a link lol :P was just worried about trollish interference, but I guess that's a moot point now) --MechaLynx (talk) 21:39, 14 April 2014 (CDT)
Uh, dude the page has been ready for some while now. I know you're busy but it's just standing there being useless. I'll add a link to Tutorials soon so that there's at least something linking to it (I think it's good enough to be linked somewhere on the wiki, but I won't add a link on the main page unless you or some other mature member does so). --MechaLynx (talk) 10:04, 29 April 2014 (CDT)
So I've added your two articles. — xZise [talk] 13:06, 29 April 2014 (CDT)
Thanks mate. I only made one article though :P Is it ok if I announce it on the forums so that tool authors know that it's there? --MechaLynx (talk) 19:07, 29 April 2014 (CDT)
Ah I though you were talking about addon. Either way they are now up there. And about the forum, do as you like. — xZise [talk] 12:44, 30 April 2014 (CDT)
No problem. I actually just made an edit to addon that I wanted to make a while ago :P might be putting some work on addon information in the future now that I've lost my mediawiki virginity :P --MechaLynx (talk) 21:17, 30 April 2014 (CDT)

Release Dates: 1.2.2

Main Page lists the release date of 1.2.2 bugfix patch as Nov 1, 2016.
Release notes lists release date of 1.2.2 bugfix patch as Dec 6, 2016.
Would love to fix, but I'm apparently not 'established'...
--Moorepiepoopstain (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Looks like this was taken care of back in December. UmbralRaptor (talk) 02:03, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Question

HOW THE HECK DO I DELETE AN ACCOUNT?

You'll want to contact an admin, particularly if it's your own account or to point us at a spammer to ban. I am available in the #KSPOfficial IRC channel on esper.net much of the time, and there's also a wiki section on the forum. UmbralRaptor (talk) 02:03, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Add news

1.4, tentatively named AWAY WITH WORDS: MKII, has been released.

I did so in the recent events section before this was posted? UmbralRaptor (talk) 18:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
The version history is not yet updated.

How to edit data list

In the version of the game I have, the Stratus-V RCS tanks are made by Stratus Corporation, not found by the side of the road. How do I change this?

Making History Expansion

How do we let people visually see that a page is about the Making History expansion and not the stock game? Do we use a notice box and mention it in the first line of the page? --Olympic1 (talk) 00:31, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

sure --User:KerbMaster (talk) 18:38, March 14, 2018 (EST)