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: At the top level, I think we should categorize them the way that the game does -- according to tab in VAB. Beyond that we can separate them by subcategory, either with blank lines (the current approach, which means a lot of extra space) or with a different kind of character separator ("——", perhaps?). — [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 
: At the top level, I think we should categorize them the way that the game does -- according to tab in VAB. Beyond that we can separate them by subcategory, either with blank lines (the current approach, which means a lot of extra space) or with a different kind of character separator ("——", perhaps?). — [[User:Elembis|Elembis]] ([[User talk:Elembis|talk]]) 07:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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:: Perhaps we should look at having another page/table that categorises the parts by their practical use, like [[Parts]] does, or maybe have this table link to it. At the least, I think I prefer your idea or using a wide dash to separate the parts, rather then new lines. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] ([[User talk:Thecoshman|talk]]) 08:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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:::We definitely need to keep to the VAB categorization, using another one would only confuse newbies who come here to look things up. I'm still struggling with creating tables in a wiki but here's a little example of what I actually intended it to look like:
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:::{|
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|rowspan="2" valign="top" | '''Command Pods'''
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|| Cockpits || ''[[Mk1 Cockpit]] • [[Mk2 Cockpit]] • [[Mk3 Cockpit]]''
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|-
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|| Pods || ''[[Command Pod Mk1]] • [[Mk1-2 Command Pod]]''
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|}
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:::This solution does however still take up a lot of space. Considering the template is generally found at the very bottom of a page where it does not disturb the rest of the article, I still find it preferable to the mess we had before. The only way to find an entry in there was using Ctrl+F (so you could just have used the normal wiki search function instead). As for the "——" solution: We could of course try it, but I do not think it would clear up the arrangement very much --[[User:CookieCrunch|CookieCrunch]] ([[User talk:CookieCrunch|talk]]) 10:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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:::: I think I like this idea of yours, perhaps you could play around with suggestions at the bottom of this page, it would be better if we can work it out first, rather then changing the main one ever five seconds. I think taking up more space is ok, if it results in a more useful table. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] ([[User talk:Thecoshman|talk]]) 11:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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== Proposal for rearranged table ==
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Here's my proposal for the rearrangement of the table. Does anybody know how to get all text to align to the top of the cells? I tried class="toptextcells" but couldn't get it to work. The "Miscellanous" subcategory could still need some work.
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<div clear="both" style="margin: 10px 0; border: 1px solid #ccc; background-color: #F6f6f6; float: left">
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<div style="background: #ccc; padding: .5em; text-align: center; font-size: large">[[Parts|Default parts]]</div>
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{|
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|- valign="top"
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|rowspan="2"| '''[[Command Module]]s'''
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|Cockpits || [[Mk1 Cockpit]] • [[Mk2 Cockpit]] • [[Mk3 Cockpit]]
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|- valign="top"
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|Command Pods || [[Command Pod Mk1]] • [[Mk1-2 Command Pod]]
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|- valign="top"
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|rowspan="6"| '''Propulsion'''
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|Jet Engines || [[Basic Jet Engine]] • [[TurboJet Engine]]
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|- valign="top"
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|Liquid Fuel Tanks || [[FL-T400 Fuel Tank]] • [[FL-T200 Fuel Tank]] • [[Rockomax X200-32 Fuel Tank]] • [[Rockomax X200-16 Fuel Tank]]
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|- valign="top"
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|Liquid Fuel Engines || [[Rockomax "Mainsail" Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-T30 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[LV-T45 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[Rockomax "Poodle" Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-909 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[Toroidal Aerospike Rocket]] • [[Rockomax Mark 55 Radial Mount Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-N Atomic Rocket Motor]]
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|- valign="top"
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|Boosters || [[RT-10 Solid Fuel Booster]] • [[Rockomax BACC Solid Fuel Booster]]
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|- valign="top"
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|RCS Fuel Tanks || [[FL-R25 RCS Fuel Tank]] • [[FL-R1 RCS Fuel Tank]]
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|- valign="top"
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|Fuselages || [[Structural Fuselage]] • [[Sepratron I]] • [[Mk1 Fuselage - Jet Fuel]] • [[Mk2 Fuselage]] • [[Mk3 Fuselage]] • [[Mk3 to Mk2 Adapter]] • [[Mk2 to size 1 Adapter]]
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|- valign="top"
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|rowspan="2"| '''Command & Control'''
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|S.A.S. Modules || [[S.A.S Module]] • [[Advanced S.A.S Module]] • [[Advanced S.A.S Module, Large]] • [[Avionics Package]]
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|- valign="top"
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|Control Parts ||[[AV-R8 Winglet]] • [[Standard Canard]] • [[Advanced Canard]] • [[Standard Control Surface]] • [[Small Control Surface]] • [[RCS Thruster Block|RV-105 RCS Thruster Block]] • [[Linear RCS Port]]
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|- valign="top"
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|rowspan="5"| '''Structural & Aerodynamic '''
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|| Decouplers || [[Hydraulic Detachment Manifold]] • [[TT-38K Radial Decoupler]] • [[TR-18A Stack Decoupler]] • [[Rockomax Brand Decoupler]]
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|- valign="top"
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|| Adapters || [[TVR-1180C Mk1 Stack Tri-Coupler]]  • [[Rockomax Brand Adapter]] • [[NCS Adapter]]
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|- valign="top"
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|| Wings || [[Delta Wing]] • [[Structural Wing]] • [[Swept Wings]] • [[Wing Connector]] • [[Tail Fin]] • [[AV-T1 Winglet]]
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|- valign="top"
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|| Engine Accessories || [[Radial Engine Body]] • [[Ram Air Intake]] • [[Circular Intake]] • [[Engine Nacelle]]
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|- valign="top"
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|| Miscellanous || [[Aerodynamic Nose Cone]] • [[Standard NC]] • [[FTX-2 External Fuel Duct]] • [[EAS-4 Strut Connector]] • [[Small Hardpoint]] • [[Structural Pylon]] • [[Tail Connector]] • [[TT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer]]
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|- valign="top"
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|rowspan="3"| '''Utility & Scientific '''
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|| Landing Gear || [[Small Gear Bay]] • [[LT-2 Landing Strut]] • [[LT-2 Landing Strut]]
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|- valign="top"
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|| Parachutes || [[Mk16 Parachute]] • [[Mk16-XL Parachute]]
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|- valign="top"
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|| Ladders || [[Pegasus I Mobility Enhancer]] • [[Telus Mobility Enhancer]] • [[Telus-LV Bay Mobility Enhancer]]
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<noinclude>
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|-valign="top"
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| '''Decals '''
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||
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|-valign="top"
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| '''Crew '''
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||
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</noinclude>
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|}
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</div><includeonly>[[Category:Default Part]]</includeonly><noinclude>
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--[[User:CookieCrunch|CookieCrunch]] ([[User talk:CookieCrunch|talk]]) 20:36, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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:This may be old, but it seems quite useful. It would certainly help to have labels for the subcategories, especially because of the constantly growing number of parts. --[[User:Dgelessus|dgelessus]] <sup>([[User talk:Dgelessus|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Dgelessus|logs]])</sup> 17:31, 7 June 2013 (CDT)
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::Maybe this should be splited up into the different categories? Even the current box is huge.
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::So something like this:
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<div clear="both" style="margin: 10px 0; border: 1px solid #ccc; background-color: #F6f6f6; float: left; width: 100%">
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<div style="background: #ccc; padding: .5em; text-align: center; font-size: large">[[Parts|Default parts]]</div>
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{| style="width: 100%"
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| style="text-align:center;" colspan="2" | [[Command Module|Command Modules]] • [[Parts#Propulsion|Propulsion]] • '''Control''' • …
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|-
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|-valign="top"
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| [[SAS]] Modules || {{LangFallback|Avionics Package}} • {{LangFallback|S.A.S Module}} • {{LangFallback|Advanced S.A.S Module}} • {{LangFallback|Advanced S.A.S Module, Large}}
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|-valign="top"
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| [[RCS]] Thrusters || {{LangFallback|Place-Anywhere 7 Linear RCS Port}} • {{LangFallback|RV-105 RCS Thruster Block}}
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|}</div>
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:: Some of the categories have already their own page like [[Command Module]]. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 11:51, 8 June 2013 (CDT)
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:::So do you mean that there should be Template:Parts/Command Modules, /Propulsion, ...? Another possibility that I thought of would be another spoilerbox for each category, inside the main spoilerbox. --[[User:Dgelessus|dgelessus]] <sup>([[User talk:Dgelessus|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Dgelessus|logs]])</sup> 16:14, 8 June 2013 (CDT)
  
 
== recent change to grouping of items ==
 
== recent change to grouping of items ==
  
 
A recent change has put a lot of new lines and this is now taking up a lot more space, I think it was better before. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] ([[User talk:Thecoshman|talk]]) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 
A recent change has put a lot of new lines and this is now taking up a lot more space, I think it was better before. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] ([[User talk:Thecoshman|talk]]) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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== What about adding some colors? No more poor #ccc color ==
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Something like this(added color to subcategory too, so you can see where it ends):
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 3px; clear: both; margin: 10px 0; border: 1px solid #AFEECE; background-color: #FDFDFD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #AFEECE; padding: .3em; text-align: center; font-size: 17px; font-weight: bold|style-content=padding: .5em|title=[[Parts{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Default parts|pl=Domyślne części|de=Standardbauteile}}]]}}
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 2px; clear: both; margin: 3px 0; border: 1px solid #1ae091; background-color: #FDFDFD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #1ae091; padding: .2em; text-align: center; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold|style-content=|title=[[Command module{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Command modules|pl=Moduły dowodzenia|de=Kommandomodule}}]]}}
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{|
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#1ae091"|{{lang|en=Manned pods|pl=Moduły załogowe|de=Bemannte Kapseln}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Mk1 Cockpit}} • {{LangFallback|Mk2 Cockpit}} • {{LangFallback|Mk3 Cockpit}} • {{LangFallback|Command Pod Mk1}} • {{LangFallback|Mk1-2 Command Pod}} • {{LangFallback|Mk1 Lander Can}} • {{LangFallback|Mk2 Lander-can}} • {{LangFallback|PPD-12 Cupola Module}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#1ae091"| {{lang|en=Command seats|pl=Fotele|de=Sitze}} ||bgcolor="#ededed"| {{LangFallback|EAS-1 External Command Seat}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#1ae091"| {{lang|en=Probe cores|pl=Sondy|de=Sonden}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Probodobodyne QBE}} • {{LangFallback|Probodobodyne HECS}} • {{LangFallback|Probodobodyne OKTO}} • {{LangFallback|Probodobodyne OKTO2}} • {{LangFallback|Stayputnik Mk. 2}} • {{LangFallback|RC-001S Remote Guidance Unit}} • {{LangFallback|RC-L01 Remote Guidance Unit}}
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|}
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{{FlipBox|end}}
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 2px;clear: both; margin: 3px 0; border: 1px solid #e8a31b; background-color: #FDFDFD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #e8a31b; padding: .2em; text-align: center; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold|style-content=|title=[[Parts{{if lang}}#{{lang|en=Propulsion|pl=Napędy|de=Antrieb}}|{{lang|en=Propulsion|pl=Napędy|de=Antrieb}}]]}}
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{|
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|-valign="top"  background-color: #e8a31b| [[Jet engine{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Jet engines|pl=Silniki odrzutowe|de=Jet-Triebwerke}}]] ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Basic Jet Engine}} • {{LangFallback|TurboJet Engine}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#e8a31b"| [[Liquid fuel tank{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Liquid fuel tanks|pl=Zbiorniki na paliwo ciekłe|de=Flüssigtreibstofftanks}}]] ||bgcolor="#ededed"| {{LangFallback|Oscar-B Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|Round-8 Toroidal Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-T100 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-T200 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-T400 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-T800 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax X200-8 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax X200-16 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax X200-32 Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax Jumbo-64 Fuel Tank}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#e8a31b"|  [[Rocket engine{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Liquid fuel engines|pl=Silniki na paliwo ciekłe|de=Flüssigtreibstoffraketen}}]] ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|LV-1 Liquid Fuel Engine}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax 24-77}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax 48-7S}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax Mark 55 Radial Mount Liquid Engine}} • {{LangFallback|Toroidal Aerospike Rocket}} • {{LangFallback|LV-N Atomic Rocket Motor}} • {{LangFallback|LV-909 Liquid Fuel Engine}} • {{LangFallback|LV-T45 Liquid Fuel Engine}} • {{LangFallback|LV-T30 Liquid Fuel Engine}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax "Poodle" Liquid Engine}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax "Skipper" Liquid Engine}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax "Mainsail" Liquid Engine}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#e8a31b"|  [[Solid rocket booster{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Solid fuel rockets|pl=Rakiety na paliwo stałe|de=Feststoffraketen}}]] ||bgcolor="#ededed"| {{LangFallback|Sepratron I}} • {{LangFallback|RT-10 Solid Fuel Booster}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax BACC Solid Fuel Booster}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#e8a31b"| {{lang|en=&#32;|pl=Zbiorniki na&#32;}}{{if lang link|RCS}}{{lang|en=&#32;fuel tanks|pl=&#32;|de=-Treibstofftanks}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Stratus-V Cylindrified Monopropellant Tank}} • {{LangFallback|Stratus-V Roundified Monopropellant Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-R1 RCS Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-R10 RCS Fuel Tank}} • {{LangFallback|FL-R25 RCS Fuel Tank}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#e8a31b"|  {{lang|en=Jet fuselages|pl=Kadłuby lotnicze|de=Jet-Rümpfe}} ||bgcolor="#ededed"| {{LangFallback|Mk1 Fuselage - Jet Fuel}} • {{LangFallback|Mk2 to size 1 Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|Mk2 Fuselage}} • {{LangFallback|Mk3 to Mk2 Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|Mk3 Fuselage}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#e8a31b"|  {{lang|en=Fuel transfer|pl=Transfer paliwa|de=Treibstofftransfer}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|FTX-2 External Fuel Duct}}
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|}
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{{FlipBox|end}}
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 2px;clear: both; margin: 3px 0; border: 1px solid #DDDDFF; background-color: #FDFDFD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #DDDDFF; padding: .2em; text-align: center; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold|style-content=|title= [[Parts{{if lang}}#{{lang|en=Control|pl=Kontrola|de=Steuerung}}|{{lang|en=Control|pl=Kontrola|de=Steuerung}}]]}}
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{|
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#DDDDFF"| {{lang|en=&#32;|pl=Moduły&#32;}}{{if lang link|SAS}}{{lang|en=&#32;modules|pl=&#32;|de=-Module}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Avionics Package}} • {{LangFallback|Inline Reaction Wheel}} • {{LangFallback|Inline Advanced Stabilizer}} • {{LangFallback|Advanced S.A.S Module, Large}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#DDDDFF"| {{lang|en=&#32;|pl=Dysze&#32;}}{{if lang link|RCS}}{{lang|en=&#32;thrusters|pl=&#32;|de=-Düsen}} ||bgcolor="#ededed"| {{LangFallback|Place-Anywhere 7 Linear RCS Port}} • {{LangFallback|RV-105 RCS Thruster Block}}
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|}
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{{FlipBox|end}}
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 2px;clear: both; margin: 3px 0; border: 1px solid #c6c900; background-color: #FDFDFD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #c6c900; padding: .2em; text-align: center; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold|style-content=|title=[[Parts{{if lang}}#{{lang|en=Structural|pl=Strukturalne|de=Strukturell}}|{{lang|en=Structural|pl=Strukturalne|de=Strukturell}}]]}}
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{|
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#c6c900"| {{lang|en=Beams, panels and radial elements|pl=Belki, panele i elementy promieniowe|de=Streben, Platten und radiale Elemente}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|EAS-4 Strut Connector}} • {{LangFallback|Small Hardpoint}} • {{LangFallback|Structural Pylon}} • {{LangFallback|Cubic Octagonal Strut}} • {{LangFallback|Octagonal Strut}} • {{LangFallback|M-Beam 200 I-Beam Pocket Edition}} • {{LangFallback|M-Beam 200 I-Beam}} • {{LangFallback|M-Beam 650 I-Beam}} • {{LangFallback|The Not-Rockomax Micronode}} • {{LangFallback|Modular Girder Segment}} • {{LangFallback|Modular Girder Segment XL}} • {{LangFallback|Modular Girder Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|Probodobodyne RoveMate}} • {{LangFallback|M-1x1 Structural Panel}} • {{LangFallback|M-2x2 Structural Panel}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#c6c900"| {{lang|en=Launch assistance|pl=Wspomaganie startu|de=Starthilfen}} ||bgcolor="#eDeDeD"| {{LangFallback|TT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#c6c900"| {{lang|en=Stackable elements|pl=Elementy składowe|de=Stapelbare Elemente}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|NCS Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|BZ-52 Radial Attachment Point}} • {{LangFallback|Structural Fuselage}} • {{LangFallback|TVR-200 Stack Bi-Coupler}} • {{LangFallback|TVR-1180C Mk1 Stack Tri-Coupler}} • {{LangFallback|TVR-2160C Mk2 Stack Quad-Coupler}} • {{LangFallback|TVR-200L Stack Bi-Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|TVR-300L Stack Tri-Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|TVR-400L Stack Quad-Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax HubMax Multi-Point Connector}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax Brand Adapter}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax Brand Adapter 02}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#c6c900"| [[Decoupler{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Decouplers|pl=Rozdzielacze|de=Abkoppler}}]] {{lang|en=and separators|pl=i separatory|de=und Abtrenner}} ||bgcolor="#eDeDeD"| {{LangFallback|TT-38K Radial Decoupler}} • {{LangFallback|TT-70 Radial Decoupler}} • {{LangFallback|Hydraulic Detachment Manifold}} • {{LangFallback|TR-2V Stack Decoupler}} • {{LangFallback|TR-18A Stack Decoupler}} • {{LangFallback|Rockomax Brand Decoupler}} • {{LangFallback|TR-2C Stack Separator}} • {{LangFallback|TR-18D Stack Separator}} • {{LangFallback|TR-XL Stack Separator}}
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|}
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{{FlipBox|end}}
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 2px;clear: both; margin: 3px 0; border: 1px solid #00c4e2; background-color: #FDfDfD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #00c4e2; padding: .2em; text-align: center; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold|style-content=|title=[[Parts{{if lang}}#{{lang|en=Aerodynamic|pl=Aerodynamika|de=Aerodynamik}}|{{lang|en=Aerodynamic|pl=Aerodynamika|de=Aerodynamik}}]]}}
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{|
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#00c4e2"| [[Control surface{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Control surfaces|pl=Powierzchnie sterujące|de=Ruder}}]] ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Small Control Surface}} • {{LangFallback|Standard Control Surface}} • {{LangFallback|AV-R8 Winglet}} • {{LangFallback|Delta-Deluxe Winglet}} • {{LangFallback|Standard Canard}} • {{LangFallback|Advanced Canard}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#00c4e2"| {{lang|en=Static wings|pl=Statyczne skrzydła|de=Feste Flügel}} ||bgcolor="#eDeDeD"| {{LangFallback|AV-T1 Winglet}} • {{LangFallback|Tail Fin}} • {{LangFallback|Swept Wings}} • {{LangFallback|Wing Connector}} • {{LangFallback|Structural Wing}} • {{LangFallback|Delta Wing}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#00c4e2"| {{lang|en=Nose cones|pl=Nasadki|de=Spitzen}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"|{{LangFallback|Standard NC}} • {{LangFallback|Aerodynamic Nose Cone}} • {{LangFallback|Tail Connector}} • {{LangFallback|Protective Rocket Nose Mk7}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#00c4e2"| {{lang|en=Air intakes|pl=Wloty powietrza|de=Lufteinlässe}} ||bgcolor="#eDeDeD"| {{LangFallback|Radial Air Intake}} • {{LangFallback|Circular Intake}} • {{LangFallback|Ram Air Intake}} • {{LangFallback|Engine Nacelle}} • {{LangFallback|Radial Engine Body}}
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|}
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{{FlipBox|end}}
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{{FlipBox|start|style=padding: 2px;clear: both; margin: 3px 0; border: 1px solid #a692e5; background-color: #FDfDfD; float: left; width:100%|style-header=background: #a692e5; padding: .2em; text-align: center; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold|style-content=|title=[[Parts{{if lang}}#{{lang|en=Utility|pl=Użytkowe|de=Hilfsmittel}}|{{lang|en=Utility|pl=Użytkowe|de=Hilfsmittel}}]]}}
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{|
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#a692e5"|{{lang|en=Landing gear|pl=Podwozie|de=Fahrwerk und Landestützen}} ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Small Gear Bay}} • {{LangFallback|LT-5 Micro Landing Strut}} • {{LangFallback|LT-1 Landing Strut}} • {{LangFallback|LT-2 Landing Strut}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#a692e5"| [[Parachute{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Parachutes|pl=Spadochrony|de=Fallschirme}}]] ||bgcolor="#eDeDeD"| {{LangFallback|Mk2-R Radial-Mount Parachute}} • {{LangFallback|Mk16 Parachute}} • {{LangFallback|Mk16-XL Parachute}} • {{LangFallback|Mk25 Parachute}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#a692e5"| [[Ladder{{if lang}}|{{lang|en=Ladders|pl=Drabiny|de=Leitern}}]] ||bgcolor="#FDFDFD"| {{LangFallback|Pegasus I Mobility Enhancer}} • {{LangFallback|Telus Mobility Enhancer}} • {{LangFallback|Telus-LV Bay Mobility Enhancer}}
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|-valign="top"
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|bgcolor="#a692e5"| {{lang|en=Powered wheels|pl=Koła elektryczne|de=Antriebsräder}} ||bgcolor="#eDeDeD"| {{LangFallback|RoveMax Model 1}} • {{LangFallback|RoveMax Model 2}} • {{LangFallback|RoveMax Model 3}} • {{LangFallback|TR-2L Ruggedized Vehicular Wheel}}
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|-valign="top"
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[[User:Piotrulos|Piotrulos]] ([[User talk:Piotrulos|talk]]) 11:46, 7 August 2013 (CDT)
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: I think it's a good idea, but the colours should be brighter (more "cream") and warmer. [[User:Fifi|Fifi]] ([[User talk:Fifi|talk]]) 06:55, 8 August 2013 (CDT)
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::Looks quite nice actually. Coming to think of it, maybe we could place the tab images from the game next to the titles. --[[User:Dgelessus|dgelessus]]&nbsp;<sup>([[User talk:Dgelessus|talk]]&nbsp;&middot;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dgelessus|contribs]])</sup> 14:16, 8 August 2013 (CDT)
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:Did you follow any specific color scheme? — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 10:39, 17 August 2013 (CDT)
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== Smaller layout ==
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Hi, I tried to tweak some css parameters to make the list a bit smaller (although it is still huge). I didn't used colors there, but may be added. You can find my test on [[User:XZise/Parts]]. It mostly simply removes a lot of whitespace. On [[User:XZise/test2]] I tried to place the title of the entry on the left, but I don't think this is that useful. But maybe somebody of you have an idea. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>&#91;[[User talk:XZise|talk]]&#93;</small> 15:08, 16 August 2013 (CDT)
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== Small reclassification to cargo categories ==
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With the addition of the ground clamp in 1.12.2, would changing "Lamps" (currently only the uncreated work lamp pages) to "Deployables" or similar be a good idea? That way, it could cover both the lamps and the clamp, and grouping them would help show that they're deployed in the same way.
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If I don't get feedback on this, I'll go ahead and make the change. [[User:AlpacaMall|AlpacaMall]] ([[User talk:AlpacaMall|talk]]) 01:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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:I like that idea, go ahead on changing that. --[[User:ArnePeirs|ArnePeirs]] ([[User talk:ArnePeirs|talk]]) 08:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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== Changing link from parts#category to parts/category ==
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The parts page has ballooned in length since alpha, and now loading the parts page is slow and data-intensive. Right now, clicking on a category name redirects you to the relevant section in the parts list, meaning we have to load the entire page just to see the requested section.
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I think it'd be better to link instead to the subpage; for example, instead of linking to [[Parts#Electrical]], link to [[Parts/Electrical]]. That way, only the section you ask for is loaded, and you don't have to load every other part in the game.
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Should I go ahead and do this? (Similarly to above topic, I'll go ahead if there's no feedback)
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[[User:AlpacaMall|AlpacaMall]] ([[User talk:AlpacaMall|talk]]) 03:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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:The length (and load time) of the parts page has been discussed several times in the past, but nobody came up with a better solution to improve the length AND keeping everything on the same page. But we definitely can link a category to its respective subpage. --[[User:ArnePeirs|ArnePeirs]] ([[User talk:ArnePeirs|talk]]) 08:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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::I tried to update the category links; however, the subpage only exists in English, and so linking to the subpage would break the links for all other languages (unless we wanted to link every language to the English page). [[User:AlpacaMall|AlpacaMall]] ([[User talk:AlpacaMall|talk]]) 21:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:30, 30 August 2021

Divide into better catagoires

The parts are currently organised based on how they are selected in the game, I think it would be more manageable if it it was broken down into the following categories. If you don't agree with the categories I propose, suggest how you would like them to be ordered.

  • Command Pods
  • Liquid Fuel Tanks
  • Liquid Fuel Engines
  • Solid Rocket Boosters
  • Control Systems (things like RCS tanks and jets, ASAS units)
  • Wings (including the control surfaces etc)
  • Landing Gear (legs, wheels and perhaps parachutes)
  • Structural (struts, fuel pipes, staging units)
  • Miscellaneous (all the other stuff)

If the miscellaneous categort ever starts to get rather full, it should be looked at to see if a new category could be made, for instance when docking system get introduced. Thecoshman (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

At the top level, I think we should categorize them the way that the game does -- according to tab in VAB. Beyond that we can separate them by subcategory, either with blank lines (the current approach, which means a lot of extra space) or with a different kind of character separator ("——", perhaps?). — Elembis (talk) 07:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps we should look at having another page/table that categorises the parts by their practical use, like Parts does, or maybe have this table link to it. At the least, I think I prefer your idea or using a wide dash to separate the parts, rather then new lines. Thecoshman (talk) 08:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
We definitely need to keep to the VAB categorization, using another one would only confuse newbies who come here to look things up. I'm still struggling with creating tables in a wiki but here's a little example of what I actually intended it to look like:
Command Pods Cockpits Mk1 CockpitMk2 CockpitMk3 Cockpit
Pods Command Pod Mk1Mk1-2 Command Pod
This solution does however still take up a lot of space. Considering the template is generally found at the very bottom of a page where it does not disturb the rest of the article, I still find it preferable to the mess we had before. The only way to find an entry in there was using Ctrl+F (so you could just have used the normal wiki search function instead). As for the "——" solution: We could of course try it, but I do not think it would clear up the arrangement very much --CookieCrunch (talk) 10:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I think I like this idea of yours, perhaps you could play around with suggestions at the bottom of this page, it would be better if we can work it out first, rather then changing the main one ever five seconds. I think taking up more space is ok, if it results in a more useful table. Thecoshman (talk) 11:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposal for rearranged table

Here's my proposal for the rearrangement of the table. Does anybody know how to get all text to align to the top of the cells? I tried class="toptextcells" but couldn't get it to work. The "Miscellanous" subcategory could still need some work.

Default parts
Command Modules Cockpits Mk1 CockpitMk2 CockpitMk3 Cockpit
Command Pods Command Pod Mk1Mk1-2 Command Pod
Propulsion Jet Engines Basic Jet EngineTurboJet Engine
Liquid Fuel Tanks FL-T400 Fuel TankFL-T200 Fuel TankRockomax X200-32 Fuel TankRockomax X200-16 Fuel Tank
Liquid Fuel Engines Rockomax "Mainsail" Liquid EngineLV-T30 Liquid Fuel EngineLV-T45 Liquid Fuel EngineRockomax "Poodle" Liquid EngineLV-909 Liquid Fuel EngineToroidal Aerospike RocketRockomax Mark 55 Radial Mount Liquid EngineLV-N Atomic Rocket Motor
Boosters RT-10 Solid Fuel BoosterRockomax BACC Solid Fuel Booster
RCS Fuel Tanks FL-R25 RCS Fuel TankFL-R1 RCS Fuel Tank
Fuselages Structural FuselageSepratron IMk1 Fuselage - Jet FuelMk2 FuselageMk3 FuselageMk3 to Mk2 AdapterMk2 to size 1 Adapter
Command & Control S.A.S. Modules S.A.S ModuleAdvanced S.A.S ModuleAdvanced S.A.S Module, LargeAvionics Package
Control Parts AV-R8 WingletStandard CanardAdvanced CanardStandard Control SurfaceSmall Control SurfaceRV-105 RCS Thruster BlockLinear RCS Port
Structural & Aerodynamic Decouplers Hydraulic Detachment ManifoldTT-38K Radial DecouplerTR-18A Stack DecouplerRockomax Brand Decoupler
Adapters TVR-1180C Mk1 Stack Tri-CouplerRockomax Brand AdapterNCS Adapter
Wings Delta WingStructural WingSwept WingsWing ConnectorTail FinAV-T1 Winglet
Engine Accessories Radial Engine BodyRam Air IntakeCircular IntakeEngine Nacelle
Miscellanous Aerodynamic Nose ConeStandard NCFTX-2 External Fuel DuctEAS-4 Strut ConnectorSmall HardpointStructural PylonTail ConnectorTT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer
Utility & Scientific Landing Gear Small Gear BayLT-2 Landing StrutLT-2 Landing Strut
Parachutes Mk16 ParachuteMk16-XL Parachute
Ladders Pegasus I Mobility EnhancerTelus Mobility EnhancerTelus-LV Bay Mobility Enhancer
Decals
Crew

--CookieCrunch (talk) 20:36, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

This may be old, but it seems quite useful. It would certainly help to have labels for the subcategories, especially because of the constantly growing number of parts. --dgelessus (talk · logs) 17:31, 7 June 2013 (CDT)
Maybe this should be splited up into the different categories? Even the current box is huge.
So something like this:
Default parts
Command ModulesPropulsionControl • …
SAS Modules Avionics PackageS.A.S ModuleAdvanced S.A.S ModuleAdvanced S.A.S Module, Large
RCS Thrusters Place-Anywhere 7 Linear RCS PortRV-105 RCS Thruster Block
Some of the categories have already their own page like Command Module. — xZise [talk] 11:51, 8 June 2013 (CDT)
So do you mean that there should be Template:Parts/Command Modules, /Propulsion, ...? Another possibility that I thought of would be another spoilerbox for each category, inside the main spoilerbox. --dgelessus (talk · logs) 16:14, 8 June 2013 (CDT)

recent change to grouping of items

A recent change has put a lot of new lines and this is now taking up a lot more space, I think it was better before. Thecoshman (talk) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

What about adding some colors? No more poor #ccc color

Something like this(added color to subcategory too, so you can see where it ends):

Default parts

Piotrulos (talk) 11:46, 7 August 2013 (CDT)

I think it's a good idea, but the colours should be brighter (more "cream") and warmer. Fifi (talk) 06:55, 8 August 2013 (CDT)
Looks quite nice actually. Coming to think of it, maybe we could place the tab images from the game next to the titles. --dgelessus (talk · contribs) 14:16, 8 August 2013 (CDT)
Did you follow any specific color scheme? — xZise [talk] 10:39, 17 August 2013 (CDT)

Smaller layout

Hi, I tried to tweak some css parameters to make the list a bit smaller (although it is still huge). I didn't used colors there, but may be added. You can find my test on User:XZise/Parts. It mostly simply removes a lot of whitespace. On User:XZise/test2 I tried to place the title of the entry on the left, but I don't think this is that useful. But maybe somebody of you have an idea. — xZise [talk] 15:08, 16 August 2013 (CDT)

Small reclassification to cargo categories

With the addition of the ground clamp in 1.12.2, would changing "Lamps" (currently only the uncreated work lamp pages) to "Deployables" or similar be a good idea? That way, it could cover both the lamps and the clamp, and grouping them would help show that they're deployed in the same way. If I don't get feedback on this, I'll go ahead and make the change. AlpacaMall (talk) 01:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I like that idea, go ahead on changing that. --ArnePeirs (talk) 08:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Changing link from parts#category to parts/category

The parts page has ballooned in length since alpha, and now loading the parts page is slow and data-intensive. Right now, clicking on a category name redirects you to the relevant section in the parts list, meaning we have to load the entire page just to see the requested section.

I think it'd be better to link instead to the subpage; for example, instead of linking to Parts#Electrical, link to Parts/Electrical. That way, only the section you ask for is loaded, and you don't have to load every other part in the game.

Should I go ahead and do this? (Similarly to above topic, I'll go ahead if there's no feedback) AlpacaMall (talk) 03:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

The length (and load time) of the parts page has been discussed several times in the past, but nobody came up with a better solution to improve the length AND keeping everything on the same page. But we definitely can link a category to its respective subpage. --ArnePeirs (talk) 08:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
I tried to update the category links; however, the subpage only exists in English, and so linking to the subpage would break the links for all other languages (unless we wanted to link every language to the English page). AlpacaMall (talk) 21:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)