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<div style="background: #ccc; padding: .5em; text-align: center; font-size: large">[[Parts|Default parts]]</div>
 
<div style="background: #ccc; padding: .5em; text-align: center; font-size: large">[[Parts|Default parts]]</div>
 
{|
 
{|
|rowspan="2" valign="top"| '''Command Pods'''  
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|- valign="top"
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|rowspan="2"| '''Command Pods'''  
 
|Cockpits || [[Cockpit Mk1]] • [[Cockpit Mk2]] • [[Cockpit Mk3]]  
 
|Cockpits || [[Cockpit Mk1]] • [[Cockpit Mk2]] • [[Cockpit Mk3]]  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|Command Pods || [[Command Pod Mk1]] • [[Command Pod Mk1-2]]
 
|Command Pods || [[Command Pod Mk1]] • [[Command Pod Mk1-2]]
  
|-  
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|- valign="top"
|rowspan="6" valign="top"| '''Propulsion'''
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|rowspan="6"| '''Propulsion'''
 
|Jet Engines || [[Basic Jet Engine]] • [[TurboJet Engine]]  
 
|Jet Engines || [[Basic Jet Engine]] • [[TurboJet Engine]]  
  
|-  
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|- valign="top"
 
|Liquid Fuel Tanks || [[FL-T400 Fuel Tank]] • [[FL-T200 Fuel Tank]] • [[Rockomax X200-32 Fuel Tank]] • [[Rockomax X200-16 Fuel Tank]]  
 
|Liquid Fuel Tanks || [[FL-T400 Fuel Tank]] • [[FL-T200 Fuel Tank]] • [[Rockomax X200-32 Fuel Tank]] • [[Rockomax X200-16 Fuel Tank]]  
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|Liquid Fuel Engines || [[Rockomax "Mainsail" Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-T30 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[LV-T45 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[Rockomax "Poodle" Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-909 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[Toroidal Aerospike Rocket]] • [[Rockomax Mark 55 Radial Mount Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-N Atomic Rocket Engine]]
 
|Liquid Fuel Engines || [[Rockomax "Mainsail" Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-T30 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[LV-T45 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[Rockomax "Poodle" Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-909 Liquid Fuel Engine]] • [[Toroidal Aerospike Rocket]] • [[Rockomax Mark 55 Radial Mount Liquid Engine]] • [[LV-N Atomic Rocket Engine]]
 
   
 
   
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|Boosters || [[RT-10 Solid Fuel Booster]] • [[Rockomax BACC Solid Fuel Booster]]
 
|Boosters || [[RT-10 Solid Fuel Booster]] • [[Rockomax BACC Solid Fuel Booster]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|RCS Fuel Tanks || [[FL-R25 RCS Fuel Tank]] • [[FL-R1 RCS Fuel Tank]]  
 
|RCS Fuel Tanks || [[FL-R25 RCS Fuel Tank]] • [[FL-R1 RCS Fuel Tank]]  
  
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|- valign="top"
 
|Fuselages || [[Structural Fuselage]] • [[Sepratron I]] • [[Mk1 Fuselage - Jet Fuel]] • [[Mk2 Fuselage]] • [[Mk3 Fuselage]] • [[Mk3 to Mk2 Adapter]] • [[Mk2 to size 1 Adapter]]
 
|Fuselages || [[Structural Fuselage]] • [[Sepratron I]] • [[Mk1 Fuselage - Jet Fuel]] • [[Mk2 Fuselage]] • [[Mk3 Fuselage]] • [[Mk3 to Mk2 Adapter]] • [[Mk2 to size 1 Adapter]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
|rowspan="2" valign="top"| '''Command & Control'''  
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|rowspan="2"| '''Command & Control'''  
 
|S.A.S. Modules || [[S.A.S. Module]] • [[Advanced S.A.S. Module]] • [[Advanced S.A.S. Module, Large]] • [[Avionics Package]]
 
|S.A.S. Modules || [[S.A.S. Module]] • [[Advanced S.A.S. Module]] • [[Advanced S.A.S. Module, Large]] • [[Avionics Package]]
  
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|- valign="top"
 
|Control Parts ||[[AV-R8 Winglet]] • [[Standard Canard]] • [[Advanced Canard]] • [[Standard Control Surface]] • [[Small Control Surface]] • [[RCS Thruster Block|RV-105 RCS Thruster Block]] • [[Linear RCS Port]]
 
|Control Parts ||[[AV-R8 Winglet]] • [[Standard Canard]] • [[Advanced Canard]] • [[Standard Control Surface]] • [[Small Control Surface]] • [[RCS Thruster Block|RV-105 RCS Thruster Block]] • [[Linear RCS Port]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
|rowspan="4" valign="top" | '''Structural & Aerodynamic '''  
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|rowspan="4"| '''Structural & Aerodynamic '''  
 
|| Decouplers || [[Hydraulic Detachment Manifold]] • [[TT-38K Radial Decoupler]] • [[TR-18A Stack Decoupler]] • [[Rockomax Brand Decoupler]]
 
|| Decouplers || [[Hydraulic Detachment Manifold]] • [[TT-38K Radial Decoupler]] • [[TR-18A Stack Decoupler]] • [[Rockomax Brand Decoupler]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|| Adapters || [[TVR-1180C Mk1 Stack Tri-Coupler]]  • [[Rockomax Brand Adapter]] • [[NCS Adapter]]
 
|| Adapters || [[TVR-1180C Mk1 Stack Tri-Coupler]]  • [[Rockomax Brand Adapter]] • [[NCS Adapter]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|| Wings || [[Delta Wing]] • [[Structural Wing]] • [[Swept Wings]] • [[Wing Connector]] • [[Tail Fin]]
 
|| Wings || [[Delta Wing]] • [[Structural Wing]] • [[Swept Wings]] • [[Wing Connector]] • [[Tail Fin]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|| Miscellanous || [[Aerodynamic Nose Cone]] • [[AV-T1 Winglet]] • [[Circular Intake]] •  [[EAS-4 Strut Connector]] • [[Engine Nacelle]] • [[FTX-2 External Fuel Duct]]  • [[Radial Engine Body]] • [[Ram Air Intake]] • [[Small Hardpoint]] • [[Standard NC]] • [[Structural Pylon]] • [[Tail Connector]] • [[TT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer]]
 
|| Miscellanous || [[Aerodynamic Nose Cone]] • [[AV-T1 Winglet]] • [[Circular Intake]] •  [[EAS-4 Strut Connector]] • [[Engine Nacelle]] • [[FTX-2 External Fuel Duct]]  • [[Radial Engine Body]] • [[Ram Air Intake]] • [[Small Hardpoint]] • [[Standard NC]] • [[Structural Pylon]] • [[Tail Connector]] • [[TT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
|rowspan="3" valign="top" | '''Utility & Scientific '''
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|rowspan="3"| '''Utility & Scientific '''
 
|| Landing Gear || [[Small Gear Bay]] • [[LT-2 Landing Struts]] • [[LT-2 Landing Struts]]
 
|| Landing Gear || [[Small Gear Bay]] • [[LT-2 Landing Struts]] • [[LT-2 Landing Struts]]
  
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|- valign="top"
 
|| Parachutes || [[Mk16 Parachute]] • [[Mk16-XL Parachute]]
 
|| Parachutes || [[Mk16 Parachute]] • [[Mk16-XL Parachute]]
  
|-
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|- valign="top"
 
|| Ladders || [[Pegasus I Mobility Enhancer]] • [[Telus Mobility Enhancer]] • [[Telus-LV Bay Mobility Enhancer]]
 
|| Ladders || [[Pegasus I Mobility Enhancer]] • [[Telus Mobility Enhancer]] • [[Telus-LV Bay Mobility Enhancer]]
 
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</div><includeonly>[[Category:Default Part]]</includeonly><noinclude>
 
</div><includeonly>[[Category:Default Part]]</includeonly><noinclude>
 
--[[User:CookieCrunch|CookieCrunch]] ([[User talk:CookieCrunch|talk]]) 20:36, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 
--[[User:CookieCrunch|CookieCrunch]] ([[User talk:CookieCrunch|talk]]) 20:36, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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== recent change to grouping of items ==
 
== recent change to grouping of items ==
  
 
A recent change has put a lot of new lines and this is now taking up a lot more space, I think it was better before. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] ([[User talk:Thecoshman|talk]]) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 
A recent change has put a lot of new lines and this is now taking up a lot more space, I think it was better before. [[User:Thecoshman|Thecoshman]] ([[User talk:Thecoshman|talk]]) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:10, 9 October 2012

Divide into better catagoires

The parts are currently organised based on how they are selected in the game, I think it would be more manageable if it it was broken down into the following categories. If you don't agree with the categories I propose, suggest how you would like them to be ordered.

  • Command Pods
  • Liquid Fuel Tanks
  • Liquid Fuel Engines
  • Solid Rocket Boosters
  • Control Systems (things like RCS tanks and jets, ASAS units)
  • Wings (including the control surfaces etc)
  • Landing Gear (legs, wheels and perhaps parachutes)
  • Structural (struts, fuel pipes, staging units)
  • Miscellaneous (all the other stuff)

If the miscellaneous categort ever starts to get rather full, it should be looked at to see if a new category could be made, for instance when docking system get introduced. Thecoshman (talk) 10:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

At the top level, I think we should categorize them the way that the game does -- according to tab in VAB. Beyond that we can separate them by subcategory, either with blank lines (the current approach, which means a lot of extra space) or with a different kind of character separator ("——", perhaps?). — Elembis (talk) 07:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps we should look at having another page/table that categorises the parts by their practical use, like Parts does, or maybe have this table link to it. At the least, I think I prefer your idea or using a wide dash to separate the parts, rather then new lines. Thecoshman (talk) 08:57, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
We definitely need to keep to the VAB categorization, using another one would only confuse newbies who come here to look things up. I'm still struggling with creating tables in a wiki but here's a little example of what I actually intended it to look like:
Command Pods Cockpits Cockpit Mk1Cockpit Mk2Cockpit Mk3
Pods Command Pod Mk1Command Pod Mk1-2
This solution does however still take up a lot of space. Considering the template is generally found at the very bottom of a page where it does not disturb the rest of the article, I still find it preferable to the mess we had before. The only way to find an entry in there was using Ctrl+F (so you could just have used the normal wiki search function instead). As for the "——" solution: We could of course try it, but I do not think it would clear up the arrangement very much --CookieCrunch (talk) 10:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
I think I like this idea of yours, perhaps you could play around with suggestions at the bottom of this page, it would be better if we can work it out first, rather then changing the main one ever five seconds. I think taking up more space is ok, if it results in a more useful table. Thecoshman (talk) 11:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposal for rearranged table

Here's my proposal for the rearrangement of the table. Does anybody know how to get all text to align to the top of the cells? I tried class="toptextcells" but couldn't get it to work. The "Miscellanous" subcategory could still need some work.

Default parts
Command Pods Cockpits Cockpit Mk1Cockpit Mk2Cockpit Mk3
Command Pods Command Pod Mk1Command Pod Mk1-2
Propulsion Jet Engines Basic Jet EngineTurboJet Engine
Liquid Fuel Tanks FL-T400 Fuel TankFL-T200 Fuel TankRockomax X200-32 Fuel TankRockomax X200-16 Fuel Tank
Liquid Fuel Engines Rockomax "Mainsail" Liquid EngineLV-T30 Liquid Fuel EngineLV-T45 Liquid Fuel EngineRockomax "Poodle" Liquid EngineLV-909 Liquid Fuel EngineToroidal Aerospike RocketRockomax Mark 55 Radial Mount Liquid EngineLV-N Atomic Rocket Engine
Boosters RT-10 Solid Fuel BoosterRockomax BACC Solid Fuel Booster
RCS Fuel Tanks FL-R25 RCS Fuel TankFL-R1 RCS Fuel Tank
Fuselages Structural FuselageSepratron IMk1 Fuselage - Jet FuelMk2 FuselageMk3 FuselageMk3 to Mk2 AdapterMk2 to size 1 Adapter
Command & Control S.A.S. Modules S.A.S. ModuleAdvanced S.A.S. ModuleAdvanced S.A.S. Module, LargeAvionics Package
Control Parts AV-R8 WingletStandard CanardAdvanced CanardStandard Control SurfaceSmall Control SurfaceRV-105 RCS Thruster BlockLinear RCS Port
Structural & Aerodynamic Decouplers Hydraulic Detachment ManifoldTT-38K Radial DecouplerTR-18A Stack DecouplerRockomax Brand Decoupler
Adapters TVR-1180C Mk1 Stack Tri-CouplerRockomax Brand AdapterNCS Adapter
Wings Delta WingStructural WingSwept WingsWing ConnectorTail Fin
Miscellanous Aerodynamic Nose ConeAV-T1 WingletCircular IntakeEAS-4 Strut ConnectorEngine NacelleFTX-2 External Fuel DuctRadial Engine BodyRam Air IntakeSmall HardpointStandard NCStructural PylonTail ConnectorTT18-A Launch Stability Enhancer
Utility & Scientific Landing Gear Small Gear BayLT-2 Landing StrutsLT-2 Landing Struts
Parachutes Mk16 ParachuteMk16-XL Parachute
Ladders Pegasus I Mobility EnhancerTelus Mobility EnhancerTelus-LV Bay Mobility Enhancer
Decals
Crew

--CookieCrunch (talk) 20:36, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

recent change to grouping of items

A recent change has put a lot of new lines and this is now taking up a lot more space, I think it was better before. Thecoshman (talk) 06:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)