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− | I'll come out and say I don't know the first thing about wiki's besides how to find information on them, so by all means stop me if I start sounding silly. I understand this idea is a bit of a undertaking, but I feel that it would help new players and students like myself out a lot if all the mathematical and physics principles could be brought together in one place, then discussed both in 'by the numbers' theory and in Kerbal practice as sort of a how-to and learn-math article. It could also be a collection of pages organized perhaps as "basic principles", "atmospheric flight/computations", "orbital mechanics", etc. I understand that other authors have placed up very informative pages on certain individual subjects (which I thank you all in that effort), I feel that in it's current state it's sort of haphazard and easily overwhelming to the mathematically unlearned. And hey we might be able to teach people calculus at the same time, helping increase the number of future engineers and scientists, which is never a bad thing. Thoughts? | + | I'll come out and say I don't know the first thing about wiki's besides how to find information on them, so by all means stop me if I start sounding silly. I understand this idea is a bit of a undertaking, but I feel that it would help new players and students like myself out a lot if all the mathematical and physics principles could be brought together in one place, then discussed both in 'by the numbers' theory and in Kerbal practice as sort of a how-to and learn-math article. It could also be a collection of pages organized perhaps as "basic principles", "atmospheric flight/computations", "orbital mechanics", etc. I understand that other authors have placed up very informative pages on certain individual subjects (which I thank you all in that effort), I feel that in it's current state it's sort of haphazard and easily overwhelming to the mathematically unlearned. And hey we might be able to teach people calculus at the same time, helping increase the number of future engineers and scientists, which is never a bad thing. Thoughts? <small>— Preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Chris.T|Chris.T]] ([[User talk:Chris.T|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chris.T|contribs]]) 00:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)</small> |
+ | :Now I don't see the necessity to bring something into one place, if you mean with one place “one page”. If there are references to “previous” formulas or concepts a link should do it. Of course if you mean with one place the whole wiki, I won't object. | ||
+ | :There are currently some pages like that: [[Terminology]] and [[cheat sheet]], but both only show you the resulting formula/concept or link to a more detailed article (like [[specific impulse]]). | ||
+ | :Also there are some pages which already talk about orbital mechanics and deduce how to get to at least one formula (I know, that's many): [[Geosynchronous Orbit (Math)]] | ||
+ | :Of course it would be good to have articles like that structured. I actually think that having something like a “Wikibook” here about that orbital stuff would be awesome. Unfortunately the problem is to get the (wo)manpower to do that, because such a “book” would require lots of work. | ||
+ | :You also made already a suggestion how to split such an article into multiple (connected) articles (with “Basic principles” and so on). You could use an {{Tl|Episode}} box at the top like in [[Campaign: Age of Rocketry]] to go through each “page”. | ||
+ | :And another thing: [[w:Wikipedia:Signatures|Sign your posts]] on talk pages with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>[[[User talk:XZise|talk]]]</small> 05:50, 21 July 2014 (CDT) |
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'Tutorial' prefix to tutorial pages
I notice that currently only a few of the tutorials have a prefix to the page name. I think the rest of the tutorials should be made to follow suit. As there may still be pages that are linking to them the old pages can be used with re-directs to the new location. We can then use the 'what links here' feature to update all the pages. Thecoshman (talk) 09:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Text vs. video
I think videos are a much more effective format for tutorials -- faster to explain and easier to understand. Any objections on adding a list of links to tutorials on YouTube? — Elembis (talk) 21:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- There is already a list of some youtube videos. The one thing that the textual tutorials have, is the fact that can make use of the wiki system. For instance, dozen tutorials can all mention that rockets need an ASAS unit, and just link to the ASAS page to explain what the hell it does, such interlinking is harder to manage with videos. You also need to consider that some people prefer reading tutorials, rather then watching and that the textual tutorials are easier to update. Thecoshman (talk) 07:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Tutorials with and without a space after Tutorial:
Hey there, when I'm searching for a tutorial I'm not sure if it has a space after the prefix or not. Maybe this should be make consistent? I would prefer without. — xZise [talk] 12:19, 16 April 2013 (CDT)
Space Plane Tutorials
Hi, I'm having trouble working with Space Planes, and while I can build a better Space Plane every time I try, it would be an enormous help if someone could write up 'Basic', 'Moderate', and 'Advanced' tutorials for building and flying SPs. Then maybe someone could make a SP tutorial for getting to Mun, or Minmus, or Duna, Eve, Moho, Jool etc.
Thank You!
-- Toa Aerrow ~ Toa of Nature (talk) 18:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC+08:00)
Forum posts?
Is there a policy about adding forum posts that function as tutorials (or are intended as tutorials)? I'm asking because there's some forum posts that have served as the basis for calculators and they're pretty solid as far as information content and presentation goes and I'd like to add them, but I'm unsure as to whether I'd have to write up a "Tutorial:" page or just link to the forum post itself (outside of youtube links there only seems to be a single dropbox link here).
--MechaLynx (talk) 07:33, 19 April 2014 (CDT)
- I think you should link to the forum. Although I'm not sure if there should be a separate section (similar to the video tutorials section) or if it should be integrated into the existing list. — xZise [talk] 15:37, 19 April 2014 (CDT)
New suggestion by new wiki contributer
I'll come out and say I don't know the first thing about wiki's besides how to find information on them, so by all means stop me if I start sounding silly. I understand this idea is a bit of a undertaking, but I feel that it would help new players and students like myself out a lot if all the mathematical and physics principles could be brought together in one place, then discussed both in 'by the numbers' theory and in Kerbal practice as sort of a how-to and learn-math article. It could also be a collection of pages organized perhaps as "basic principles", "atmospheric flight/computations", "orbital mechanics", etc. I understand that other authors have placed up very informative pages on certain individual subjects (which I thank you all in that effort), I feel that in it's current state it's sort of haphazard and easily overwhelming to the mathematically unlearned. And hey we might be able to teach people calculus at the same time, helping increase the number of future engineers and scientists, which is never a bad thing. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris.T (talk • contribs) 00:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- Now I don't see the necessity to bring something into one place, if you mean with one place “one page”. If there are references to “previous” formulas or concepts a link should do it. Of course if you mean with one place the whole wiki, I won't object.
- There are currently some pages like that: Terminology and cheat sheet, but both only show you the resulting formula/concept or link to a more detailed article (like specific impulse).
- Also there are some pages which already talk about orbital mechanics and deduce how to get to at least one formula (I know, that's many): Geosynchronous Orbit (Math)
- Of course it would be good to have articles like that structured. I actually think that having something like a “Wikibook” here about that orbital stuff would be awesome. Unfortunately the problem is to get the (wo)manpower to do that, because such a “book” would require lots of work.
- You also made already a suggestion how to split such an article into multiple (connected) articles (with “Basic principles” and so on). You could use an {{Episode}} box at the top like in Campaign: Age of Rocketry to go through each “page”.
- And another thing: Sign your posts on talk pages with --~~~~. — xZise [talk] 05:50, 21 July 2014 (CDT)