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This article starts with “...an engine that generates thrust solely through the use of onboard propellant.” Wikipedia's article on rocket engines starts with defining them as using “only stored propellant mass for forming its high speed propulsive jet”. The KSP engine types also match with [[w:Rocket_engine#Types_of_rocket_engines|Wikipedia's list of rocket engine types]]. Really, this article's contents should be in “[[Rocket engine]]”. | This article starts with “...an engine that generates thrust solely through the use of onboard propellant.” Wikipedia's article on rocket engines starts with defining them as using “only stored propellant mass for forming its high speed propulsive jet”. The KSP engine types also match with [[w:Rocket_engine#Types_of_rocket_engines|Wikipedia's list of rocket engine types]]. Really, this article's contents should be in “[[Rocket engine]]”. | ||
| − | Currently, this article includes [[Parts#RCS_Thrusters|RCS thrusters]]. They ''do'' qualify as rocket engines for using only onboard propellant. But because KSP organizes them separately from “Engines” under [[ | + | Currently, this article includes [[Parts#RCS_Thrusters|RCS thrusters]]. They ''do'' qualify as rocket engines for using only onboard propellant. But because KSP organizes them separately from “Engines” under [[Parts#Command_and_Control|Command and Control]], I'd suggest keeping all RCS info in one place in the [[Reaction Control System]] article and just linking to it under a heading in this article. |
[[Jet engine]]s '''are''' reaction engines, but ''not'' rocket engines. Obviously, they should stay in their own article. | [[Jet engine]]s '''are''' reaction engines, but ''not'' rocket engines. Obviously, they should stay in their own article. | ||
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We could still have a [[Reaction engine]] article, but it would logically have to list [[rocket engine]]s, [[jet engine]]s, and I'd suggest listing [[Reaction Control System|RCS]] engines as a separate sub-category of rocket engines. | We could still have a [[Reaction engine]] article, but it would logically have to list [[rocket engine]]s, [[jet engine]]s, and I'd suggest listing [[Reaction Control System|RCS]] engines as a separate sub-category of rocket engines. | ||
--[[User:Brendan|Brendan]] ([[User talk:Brendan|talk]]) 20:42, 2 March 2015 (CST) | --[[User:Brendan|Brendan]] ([[User talk:Brendan|talk]]) 20:42, 2 March 2015 (CST) | ||
| + | :Why do you want to split it? All reaction engines work very similar and there is no difference between ion engines and rocket engines (excluding RCS thrusters). The only odd balls are RCS thrusters (as they are not throttable but apart from that work like the other engines) and jet engines (as they have a thrust curve which affects their thrust in a not obvious pattern, as the I<sub>sp</sub> and fuel flow don't change accordingly). I'm not sure why we need to split it just because they are in separate sections of the VAB part list, which also changed the last times. — [[User:XZise|xZise]] <small>[[[User talk:XZise|talk]]]</small> 07:55, 3 March 2015 (CST) | ||
Revision as of 13:55, 3 March 2015
Move to 'Liquid Fuel Engine'
calling them 'rocket' engines is ambiguous, it could mean either liquid or solid fuel engines. Thecoshman (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Image broken
I broke the picture trying to make it clear the picture was from before 0.18. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GregroxMun (talk • contribs) 18:50, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- The reason was, that {{version}} does add a link on it's own and the caption was already a link. So there was then a link within a link.— xZise [talk] 12:08, 3 July 2014 (CDT)
Wikipedia says reaction includes jet engines...
Our terminology is wrong. So says the Wikipedia article on Reaction engines.
From the article (emphasis added):
- A reaction engine is an engine or motor which provides propulsion (thrust) by expelling reaction mass, in accordance with Newton's third law of motion. This law of motion is most commonly paraphrased as: "For every action force there is an equal, but opposite, reaction force".
- Examples include both jet engines and rocket engines, and more uncommon variations such as Hall effect thrusters, ion drives, mass drivers and nuclear pulse propulsion.
This article starts with “...an engine that generates thrust solely through the use of onboard propellant.” Wikipedia's article on rocket engines starts with defining them as using “only stored propellant mass for forming its high speed propulsive jet”. The KSP engine types also match with Wikipedia's list of rocket engine types. Really, this article's contents should be in “Rocket engine”.
Currently, this article includes RCS thrusters. They do qualify as rocket engines for using only onboard propellant. But because KSP organizes them separately from “Engines” under Command and Control, I'd suggest keeping all RCS info in one place in the Reaction Control System article and just linking to it under a heading in this article.
Jet engines are reaction engines, but not rocket engines. Obviously, they should stay in their own article.
We could still have a Reaction engine article, but it would logically have to list rocket engines, jet engines, and I'd suggest listing RCS engines as a separate sub-category of rocket engines. --Brendan (talk) 20:42, 2 March 2015 (CST)
- Why do you want to split it? All reaction engines work very similar and there is no difference between ion engines and rocket engines (excluding RCS thrusters). The only odd balls are RCS thrusters (as they are not throttable but apart from that work like the other engines) and jet engines (as they have a thrust curve which affects their thrust in a not obvious pattern, as the Isp and fuel flow don't change accordingly). I'm not sure why we need to split it just because they are in separate sections of the VAB part list, which also changed the last times. — xZise [talk] 07:55, 3 March 2015 (CST)
