Talk:Main Page

The blog/news link needs to be changed to http://kerbaldevteam.tumblr.com/

Done! UmbralRaptor (talk) 08:56, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Wiki TODO list

I figure it would help out if their was a central location for things that need to be done. To help best explain what I have in mind for this list, I figure I could just start it off. In terms of using it, if you just add an idea to the list and give a quick explanation of what you think it should be, then some one else can provide some feed back on it. If the idea get's some momentum, we can add it to the wiki, or perhaps move the discussion into it's own section on this talk page. Don't forget to sign your posts with four ~ in a row. Thecoshman (talk) 10:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

• A page for part categories should be added. There is currently rather good documentation for each of the parts, but a lot of what they cover is duplicated. For instance, each of the liquid fuel tanks behave in more or less the same way, the only difference is the relative sizes and stat's. I think the individual pages, whilst small, should be kept as they can keep the more characterful description of the parts and details such as changes between versions. I envision a page that will provide a description of how to use the type of part along with (most importantly) a table that can be used to compare them, so you can sort of the thrust a rocket engine provides. or the dry weight of liquid fuel pods. Thecoshman (talk) 10:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
• Consistent imagery. Again, whilst the work so far has been awesome for the individual parts, some sort of guide line should be put in place for the part images. Some of the images have the part on its own in what appears to be some sort of model viewer, and I think this is the best solution. Having the image for the part on a vehicle can make it hard to see what the part actually is. We might also want to consider some sort of guidelines as to the minimum size the image should be. Thecoshman (talk) 10:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
• A guidelines page. As you can see, I might have a bit of a thing for guidelines, but it can really help improve the quality of the wiki. I would also stress that I am saying guidelines and not rules, there is no need to be really strict, it's all a bit of fun at the end of the day. Thecoshman (talk) 10:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Where's the image?

I think the removal of the main image was a big mistake. It really helped anchor this as the main page. Thecoshman (talk) 08:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

• Personally I thought the logo was way too big and served no purpose other than pushing everything else down the page. I think it would be appropriate to keep it somewhere on the page (maybe centered above the planets?), albeit much smaller.--Craigmt1 (talk) 18:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm considering placing it where the Main Page title currently is. Unfortunately, the background is gray and it'd look wrong, so I'm looking for one with a white background. -- N3X15 (talk) 19:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
    • would something like this work? --Craigmt1 (talk) 22:44, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

link to the forums is broken

The link to the KSP forums is borken, currently takes you to '/forums' it should point to '/forum' Thecoshman (talk) 12:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

• Fixed -- N3X15 (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Planets images

Can someone update TinyKerbin.jpg with this [1], TinyEve.jpg - [2], TinyMoho.jpg - [3], TinyJool.jpg - [4]. If there would be some problems - just change link to [[File:File.png|100px]]

Can these images also be unlocked? Now that they are linked to the main page nobody can update them.--Craigmt1 (talk) 18:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

• Removed cascading protection -- N3X15 (talk) 19:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Important Articles

I would like to nominate Orbital and physics terms for inclusion on the main page, or at least to be linked to from one of the top-level pages. It's a great article for newbies to read to familiarize themselves with the lingo before moving onto the more advanced stuff. --Entroper (talk) 02:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it can be linked to from the tutorials page. Thecoshman (talk) 07:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Terminology, since it's more generic than just limiting it to orbital stuff and physics. -- N3X15 ^{(C · T · E)} 04:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

How the handle the demo version

Currently the items that exist in the demo version get a second page dedicated to covering them, which to me seems like needless repetition. I think the better way is to simply have the one page that covers the part as it is in the current version, then have a section towards the end that can summarise how the part differs for the demo version. Most of the differences can be seen in the change log at the bottom of each part page anyway. This approach can even be used for the removed command pod, keep a an up-to-date page that covers how it changed up the final version it was included, but don't make a huge fuss about the fact that it is only a demo part. Thecoshman (talk) 10:30, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good -- N3X15 (talk) 07:28, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

In that case, we need to go through the parts found in these following table, make them redirect to the current part, and ensure the current parts explains that is also present in the demo version. Thecoshman (talk) 10:31, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I do believe I have now redirected ALL the pages for demo pages for parts to proper pages. Thecoshman (talk) 08:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

This seems rather confusing and uninformative -- the demo parts are increasingly different from the paid version in names (eg: LF-T500 vs LF-T400), stats (most-everything), image (Mk1 Pod), or and even part types (eg: LiquidEngine vs LiquidFuelEngine) UmbralRaptor (talk) 05:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Version-specific disclaimers

Instead of having to say "as of version 0.17" everywhere, can we just assume that statements refer to the latest version and will be updated when needed? Otherwise, when 0.18 comes out, it seems like we'd need to replace every occurrence of "as of version 0.17" with "as of version 0.18", and that would just get ridiculous. — Elembis (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. -- N3X15 (talk) 23:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

This some what ties together to the notion that 'Demo' versions of parts should not have separate articles, that they should just be part of the main article and with notes about how they differ in the demo version. Thecoshman (talk) 06:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Style guide

Can we adopt Wikipedia's manual of style as our own? — Elembis (talk) 19:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

This makes sense to me, I would assume we want to aim for a quality wiki. That said, I would be careful with sticking to the 'rules' too strictly, after all we should aim to cater for a 'tounge in cheeck' approach, fitting in with the comedy style of the game it self. Thecoshman (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

We do need a manual of style, but it needs to be something less formal. We don't need to be a scholarly source, we just need to have a consistent style. Stuff like links ([[IVA]]s instead of [[IVA|IVAs]], which is enforced by RoboJeb already), tables, and other things that make it mildly easier to edit a page. -- N3X15 ^{(C · T · E)} 04:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

wait... you prefer [[example]]s over [[example]]s? Oh lord! I think the first style looks ugly as sin because you end up with that one letter no part of the link, I much prefer the latter style. as for adopting a formal guide, I agree with you N3X15, as long as we have a consistent style, perhaps a page can be created where some of these guide lines can be added as they arise in very organic way? Thecoshman (talk) 08:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

ah, I did not realise that the pluralising 's' will be considered part of the link, so we can disregard my complaints about that. Thecoshman (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding new namespaces

This is something that will require admin attention. Would it be possible for the 'Tutorials' namespace to be properly added to the system. It would also be usefully if there was a namespace along the line of 'API' or 'DevDocs'. Instructions on how to do this can be found here. Thecoshman (talk) 10:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

• Done. -- N3X15 (talk) 09:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

English English or American English?

I would assume that American English is the preferred English for this wiki. Though, I think it should be stated clearly so that we can avoid ping-pong edits between American and English English. If we get to vote in this matter, I would prefer English English, on account of being English, but not that fussed overall. Thecoshman (talk) 08:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• I don't see how theatre/theater, etc. would result in pingponging, as either are valid and aren't worth editing over. Best thing to do would be to leave rules instructing users not to bother editing minor dialect-specific things. As for measurements, we should be using metric anyway, as KSP deals with a lot of science (obviously). I'll (hopefully) start working on rules tomorrow. -- N3X15 (talk) 09:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Units of measurement for part masses and engine thrust

At the moment, the game doesn't specify units of measure for part masses or engine thrusts. We should agree on what to show in the wiki. There has been some discussion on this, but I figured it'd be useful to get some more feedback and hopefully a consensus.

A Wikipedia-style vote, with discussion at the end, seems appropriate. =) Please cast your vote by putting your signature (~~~~) in a list, and feel free to elaborate in comments at the ends of all the lists. =) — Elembis (talk) 04:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

kg, N

1. Elembis (talk) 04:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
2. (your name here)

tonnes (or Megagrams Mg), kN

1. --Jlmr (talk) 04:50, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
2. UmbralRaptor (talk) 05:00, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
3. (your name here)

• It's not really as much a matter of opinion, and as much as I enjoy the debate, it's a matter of simple physics! :) --Jlmr (talk) 04:52, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
• I'm starting to think that Elembis's premise 3 was wrong, and rocket parts/kerbals are in different mass units from the star/planets/moons. Given that we can't push planets around, this seems workable.