Talk:Laythe

Is the liquid surface really 'water'

Is the Liquid on Laythe actually water? Thecoshman (talk) 22:22, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

No, according to a dev. (forgot the name, I think HarvesteR), it's an water-ammoniac mixture. But, if you'd ask me, it is water, and the molten core heats the surface up to a pleasant 18 degrees celsius, causing the water to be liquid. BUT I can imagine that this will result in strong currents. MmPMSFmM (talk) 16:03, 8 June 2013 (CDT)

It is also said in the article that the water (if it is water) must contain something else to keep it molten at the low temperatures. The temperatue is definetely below 0, which is stated as well and can be measured. So it is impossible that the core keeps the water liquid, unless Laythe's atmosphere is an extremely bad heat conductor, which is not the case, because it is somewhat similar to Kerbin's. --dgelessus ^{(talk · logs)} 16:24, 8 June 2013 (CDT)

Because Laythe is the closest moon to Jool, it would be heated by tidal forces from Jool's gravity, much as Jupiter's moon Io is, causing the whole planet to retain a relatively constant temperature, keeping the oceans in a liquid state. It's even in the description for the seismic scanner when used on laythe's surface --Sean1082 (talk) 18:48, 28 November 2014 (CDT)

But shouldn't the temperature reading be above 0 °C then? — xZise [talk] 03:52, 28 September 2014 (CDT)

It may, but what could be going on is that heat from tidal forces in Laythe's core may not travel to the surface. What happens instead is that the heat from the core only reaches the ocean at the bottom through things such as volcanic activity or hydro-thermal vents (which would have to be rather common). The warm water then rises to the surface, loosing much of it's energy along the way, keeping the oceans liquid, but not retaining enough energy to heat the atmosphere. ---Sean1082 (talk) 18:55, 28 November 2014 (CDT)

I'm not a physicist to say if that is likely. But we can't confirm/contradict that with the current thermometer as it is not working like a proper one. — xZise [talk] 14:56, 29 September 2014 (CDT)

Picture too large

This picture needs to be resized so it is not so unsightly. Thecoshman (talk) 16:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Extra data needed

Usually I would build a rocket and go figure it out myself, but my normal computer is being repaired so i am stuck with my old Dell with an Intel Pentium 4HT and it can barely support v0.16. So i currently cant get any data on the new bodies. Would somebody be willing to get the following information on Laythe (and possibly other bodies)?

I need day length (compared to parent body, so a planet to a star and a moon to a planet), radius and orbital statistics (inclination & eccentricity.)

If you give me the data then i will be very thankful and i can finish touching up the information on this wiki.

Laythe's tidally locked to Jool, so it'll rotate once per orbit, which is 14 hours, 43 minutes and 1 second. The radius is 500,000 metres, about 83% the size of Kerbin. The inclination is 0º and the eccentricity is also 0. R0cketor (talk) 06:21, 29 March 2013 (CDT)

Better Annotations

I would suggest better annotating than the rather slapstick annotations that a user has created to show the moons in the atmosphere of Laythe. I would do the job if nobody stands up to it. R0cketor (talk) 06:21, 29 March 2013 (CDT)

You mean File:VallFromLaythe.png, File:TyloFromLaythe.png and File:BopFromLaythe.png (which has double pointing annotations)? Go for it! That way the craft has the newer nicer part textures. — xZise [talk] 04:57, 3 May 2013 (CDT)

I made File:VallFromLaytheNew.png. Should I go ahead and put it in the article? Ammonia ocean (talk) 15:06, 30 July 2013 (CDT)

Looks pretty good, go ahead. By the way, you can also update the old image - there's a link for that under the file history. ("Upload a new version of this file") --dgelessus ^{(talk · contribs)} 15:22, 30 July 2013 (CDT)

Do we need to mark other moons/planets in the image? Especially if there is only one (except Kerbol maybe) which is then so prominent, it should suffice to say which moon/planet is shown in the image description? Something like “Vall from Laythe surface”. And btw what is this … artefact on the right of your ship? — xZise [talk] 17:19, 30 July 2013 (CDT)

What do you mean? The only thing I can see to the right is Kerbol. Or do you mean the booster?Ammonia ocean (talk) 21:48, 4 August 2013 (CDT)

I personally think you don't need to highlight Vall, because when you have a image description which says “Vall seen from Laythe” you know that this blue object in the sky is Vall. — xZise [talk] 02:32, 5 August 2013 (CDT)

Yeah, you may be right. I think I have a version without the annotations – I'll upload it shortly. Ammonia ocean (talk) 06:17, 5 August 2013 (CDT)

Land Landing

How difficult is it to land on land? I want to head over to a Joolian moon, and Laythe seems like a good idea, but I don't want to land in water. What tactics could be used? Ben Again (talk) 19:04, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

Almost exactly the same as landing on Kerbin. Just aim about 25% of the circumference of the planet in overshot and the atmosphere will slow you down. Just before you hit the island to land on, deploy chutes. R0cketor (talk) 01:18, 3 May 2013 (CDT)

Crescent bay biome

After "some" searching, both in game (0.90) and in google, I haven't found the so called "Crescent Bay" biome, or have found anyone with proof that it can be found in game (0.90). Listing something that can't be reached can only lead to countless of frustrating hours, as we all know how OCD we people playing this game can be, so in my opinion either prove it, or not list it at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victhor (talk • contribs) 08:48, 21 February 2015‎ (UTC)

It seems that kerbalmaps is unfortunately not up to date, otherwise it might be easier to find the biomes there (like here it's showing all biomes in the bottom left). — xZise [talk] 05:48, 21 February 2015 (CST)

Is the atmosphere of Laythe toxic?

Given that I have seen multiple people saying that Laythe has a toxic atmosphere, and I have found no reference to it anywhere, could someone please point me to the source? -Ento da Lizzerd 11:42 A.M. 10/12/21

The source is very likely past versions of KSP, where air-breathing engines would work but Kerbals wouldn't remove their helmets. I'm not sure when it was changed to be non-toxic, but I think it's somewhere between versions 1.4 & 1.7. Eekee (talk) 16:24, 6 December 2022 (UTC)