Difference between revisions of "Talk:Eve"

Revision as of 17:46, 7 April 2014

liquid

the article says that the oceans/lakes are unlikely to be water. i'm not sure if outdated data is involved here, but wolfram alpha says that the boiling point of water at 507 kPa is 2.5° higher than the max surface temperature (150°) listed in the infobox, suggesting that water could very well exist as a liquid on eve. i'll amend that part unless there are any objections. --ant (☎) 15:45, 20 August 2013 (CDT)

Your Wolfram Alpha link doesn't seem to work, but assuming that you did it right I guess water wouldn't boil. Also maybe the temperature values are invalid or outdated. And your link to the talk page was incorrect. — xZise [talk] 17:19, 20 August 2013 (CDT)

weird... this should work. and thanks for the heads-up, something must have gone screwy when i ticked the "treat as wikitext" box. --ant (☎) 18:23, 20 August 2013 (CDT)

Okay this link is now working. And if I read correctly salty water has an even higher boiling point (unfortunately I can't get wolfram alpha to calculate that value). I'll send probe(s) to Eve and check the actual pressure and temperature levels, and if the values in the infobox are correct the section should be rewritten. — xZise [talk] 12:37, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Infiniglider glitch

A few days ago, I flew around Eve by exploiting the game mechanics so that I could use control surfaces for propulsion and stay aloft indefinitely (on a similar principle to the Duna probes seen in this video. Should this be mentioned as a legitimate strategy, or should it stay off the page as a glitch exploit? Ammonia ocean (talk) 22:14, 3 September 2013 (CDT)

I would prefer an article like infinite glider and describe the “physics” there. Only note that those glider work in Eve's atmosphere, because this is not a special property of Eve. — xZise [talk] 04:24, 4 September 2013 (CDT)

Okay, I made some additions to the infinite glider article. Let me know what else you need added. Ammonia ocean (talk) 22:09, 4 September 2013 (CDT)

Thanks for your additions, it now looks nice. I moved your image to the left like plane, rocket or spaceplane do it too. — xZise [talk] 04:02, 5 September 2013 (CDT)

No problem. Thanks for moving the image, I was wondering how to do that. Ammonia ocean (talk) 09:52, 5 September 2013 (CDT)

Delta-V Required table

The recently added table requires citation, and it should be emphasized that any such numbers are intended as minimum values, as ascent delta-V is both craft (particularly TWR) and trajectory dependent. These should be obvious facts, but if they are left unstated folks will be asking why their rockets didn't make orbit despite having as much dV as the wiki said they needed. Best to address that question along with the data. --Tavert (talk) 22:49, 19 September 2013 (CDT)

Atmosphere composition

There is no need for unfounded speculations about iodine in the atmosphere or anywhere on Eve. Just like any other halogen, iodine is an extremely reactive element and simply can't exist in its elemental state in nature. Lajoswinkler (talk) 15:59, 19 January 2014 (CST)

aerobraking estimate

The estimate of 72.5km for aerobraking seems a bit high. I don't know if things have changed since then, but as of 23.5, I came in from Kerbin at about 67.5km to barely get into Eve orbit. I then did two more passes at 72.5km before settling in.