Talk:Eve

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liquid

the article says that the oceans/lakes are unlikely to be water. i'm not sure if outdated data is involved here, but wolfram alpha says that the boiling point of water at 507 kPa is 2.5° higher than the max surface temperature (150°) listed in the infobox, suggesting that water could very well exist as a liquid on eve. i'll amend that part unless there are any objections. --ant () 15:45, 20 August 2013 (CDT)

Your Wolfram Alpha link doesn't seem to work, but assuming that you did it right I guess water wouldn't boil. Also maybe the temperature values are invalid or outdated. And your link to the talk page was incorrect. — xZise [talk] 17:19, 20 August 2013 (CDT)
weird... this should work. and thanks for the heads-up, something must have gone screwy when i ticked the "treat as wikitext" box. --ant () 18:23, 20 August 2013 (CDT)
Okay this link is now working. And if I read correctly salty water has an even higher boiling point (unfortunately I can't get wolfram alpha to calculate that value). I'll send probe(s) to Eve and check the actual pressure and temperature levels, and if the values in the infobox are correct the section should be rewritten. — xZise [talk] 12:37, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Infiniglider glitch

A few days ago, I flew around Eve by exploiting the game mechanics so that I could use control surfaces for propulsion and stay aloft indefinitely (on a similar principle to the Duna probes seen in this video. Should this be mentioned as a legitimate strategy, or should it stay off the page as a glitch exploit? Ammonia ocean (talk) 22:14, 3 September 2013 (CDT)

I would prefer an article like infinite glider and describe the “physics” there. Only note that those glider work in Eve's atmosphere, because this is not a special property of Eve. — xZise [talk] 04:24, 4 September 2013 (CDT)
Okay, I made some additions to the infinite glider article. Let me know what else you need added. Ammonia ocean (talk) 22:09, 4 September 2013 (CDT)
Thanks for your additions, it now looks nice. I moved your image to the left like plane, rocket or spaceplane do it too. — xZise [talk] 04:02, 5 September 2013 (CDT)
No problem. Thanks for moving the image, I was wondering how to do that. Ammonia ocean (talk) 09:52, 5 September 2013 (CDT)

This bug does not work anymore so this section might be considered for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 322997am (talkcontribs) 13:13, 13 June 2015‎

Which section should be considered for deletion? I don't see anything in the current article which refers to infiniglide (but I could have missed something, so please be specific if you think there is something needing an update in the article).
If you mean the infinite glider article, the lead paragraph there clearly notes that it's a historical bug that was fixed with 1.0, so I don't see any real need for deletion there. We should possibly consider a more prominent notice for articles which have become purely historical. Personally, I think historical content is interesting and good to have on the wiki, as long as it's clearly noted to be historical.
If you mean this section of this "talk page", then no, it should not be deleted. Talk pages are primarily an editorial discussion of the content of articles. As such, discussions are not normally deleted, just archived if the talk page starts to get unreasonably large (this talk page is still ok, in my opinion, with no real need for archival). There is no requirement for talk pages to be exclusively current and accurate descriptions of in-game behaviour, as they are simply discussions. Any on topic inaccuracy on talk pages is dealt with by further discussion.
--Murph (talk) 14:23, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Delta-V Required table

The recently added table requires citation, and it should be emphasized that any such numbers are intended as minimum values, as ascent delta-V is both craft (particularly TWR) and trajectory dependent. These should be obvious facts, but if they are left unstated folks will be asking why their rockets didn't make orbit despite having as much dV as the wiki said they needed. Best to address that question along with the data. --Tavert (talk) 22:49, 19 September 2013 (CDT)

Atmosphere composition

There is no need for unfounded speculations about iodine in the atmosphere or anywhere on Eve. Just like any other halogen, iodine is an extremely reactive element and simply can't exist in its elemental state in nature. Lajoswinkler (talk) 15:59, 19 January 2014 (CST)

Aerobraking Estimate

The estimate of 72.5km for aerobraking seems a bit high. I don't know if things have changed since then, but as of 23.5, I came in from Kerbin at about 67.5km to barely get into Eve orbit. I then did two more passes at 72.5km before settling in.— Preceding unsigned comment added by JBeta (talkcontribs) 17:46, 7 April 2014‎

I guess after visiting Eve several more times, that figure must be for a lower speed approach, and I never seem to be approaching that slow. JBeta (talk) 16:32, 12 April 2014 (CDT)

No link to "landing on..."?

I thought it was strange there's no link to the Traveling to Eve page on the Eve page!

I was thinking about putting it in a "See Also:" section at the bottom, but this page doesn't have a See Also section yet. Also I feel that's too far at the bottom for many to notice.

For now I'm just putting it at the top. If anyone has a more elegant solution, please post here — Whph (talk) 02:12, 30 June 2014 (CDT)

I rewritten it a bit, because simply saying "see also" looked a bit sloppy to me. While I understand that a "See also" section can be overlooked very easily links elsewhere should be properly integrated. — xZise [talk] 10:57, 4 July 2014 (CDT)

Missing Biomes?

The wikipage states the existence of the "Craters" and "Akatsuki Lake" biomes and this is confirmed in the cfg, but there isn't a whiff of either of them in the ingame biome overlays or readouts. The craters consist of Impact Ejecta and all enclosed bodies of liquid other than Crater Lake and the Eastern/Western Seas are generic Explodium Sea or Shallows. Are those two biomes even implemented right now? Bvoice360 (talk) 20:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Confirmation of Akatsuki Lake Biome Location:

Player driven mapping using S.C.A.N. Biome Map of Eve at 47.68X Zoom displays the "Akatsuki Lake" and confirms the coordinates and relative location on Eve surface. Akatsuki Lake biome coordinates: 25°48'20.97"S 142°22'13.90"E (lat: -25.81° lon: 142.37°)

Error in data about Eve Synchronous orbit?

On sidebar: Synchronous orbit 10 328.47 km

In text: A synchronous orbit of Eve requires an altitude of 10373.195 km and a velocity of 858.95 m/s.

What is right?