Talk:Main Page/archive/2012/10

Important Articles

I would like to nominate Orbital and physics terms for inclusion on the main page, or at least to be linked to from one of the top-level pages. It's a great article for newbies to read to familiarize themselves with the lingo before moving onto the more advanced stuff. --Entroper (talk) 02:05, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it can be linked to from the tutorials page. Thecoshman (talk) 07:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Moved to Terminology, since it's more generic than just limiting it to orbital stuff and physics. -- N3X15 ^{(C · T · E)} 04:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

How the handle the demo version

Currently the items that exist in the demo version get a second page dedicated to covering them, which to me seems like needless repetition. I think the better way is to simply have the one page that covers the part as it is in the current version, then have a section towards the end that can summarise how the part differs for the demo version. Most of the differences can be seen in the change log at the bottom of each part page anyway. This approach can even be used for the removed command pod, keep a an up-to-date page that covers how it changed up the final version it was included, but don't make a huge fuss about the fact that it is only a demo part. Thecoshman (talk) 10:30, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good -- N3X15 (talk) 07:28, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

In that case, we need to go through the parts found in these following table, make them redirect to the current part, and ensure the current parts explains that is also present in the demo version. Thecoshman (talk) 10:31, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I do believe I have now redirected ALL the pages for demo pages for parts to proper pages. Thecoshman (talk) 08:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

This seems rather confusing and uninformative -- the demo parts are increasingly different from the paid version in names (eg: LF-T500 vs LF-T400), stats (most-everything), image (Mk1 Pod), or and even part types (eg: LiquidEngine vs LiquidFuelEngine) UmbralRaptor (talk) 05:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

A lot of the differences are minor details that be covered in the change section. Worse case, a section at the end can provide a quick summery of the details in the demo version. The main reason I removed the demo version pages is that almost all the content was about how the part is used and thus duplicated. The same goes for part types, which is why I (and others) have created a few pages that cover how 'fuel tanks' work or 'SAS'. It's all about trying reduce the duplication. Thecoshman (talk) 08:06, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Version-specific disclaimers

Instead of having to say "as of version 0.17" everywhere, can we just assume that statements refer to the latest version and will be updated when needed? Otherwise, when 0.18 comes out, it seems like we'd need to replace every occurrence of "as of version 0.17" with "as of version 0.18", and that would just get ridiculous. — Elembis (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

That seems reasonable. -- N3X15 (talk) 23:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

This some what ties together to the notion that 'Demo' versions of parts should not have separate articles, that they should just be part of the main article and with notes about how they differ in the demo version. Thecoshman (talk) 06:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Style guide

Can we adopt Wikipedia's manual of style as our own? — Elembis (talk) 19:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

This makes sense to me, I would assume we want to aim for a quality wiki. That said, I would be careful with sticking to the 'rules' too strictly, after all we should aim to cater for a 'tounge in cheeck' approach, fitting in with the comedy style of the game it self. Thecoshman (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

We do need a manual of style, but it needs to be something less formal. We don't need to be a scholarly source, we just need to have a consistent style. Stuff like links ([[IVA]]s instead of [[IVA|IVAs]], which is enforced by RoboJeb already), tables, and other things that make it mildly easier to edit a page. -- N3X15 ^{(C · T · E)} 04:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

wait... you prefer [[example]]s over [[example]]s? Oh lord! I think the first style looks ugly as sin because you end up with that one letter no part of the link, I much prefer the latter style. as for adopting a formal guide, I agree with you N3X15, as long as we have a consistent style, perhaps a page can be created where some of these guide lines can be added as they arise in very organic way? Thecoshman (talk) 08:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

ah, I did not realise that the pluralising 's' will be considered part of the link, so we can disregard my complaints about that. Thecoshman (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding new namespaces

This is something that will require admin attention. Would it be possible for the 'Tutorials' namespace to be properly added to the system. It would also be usefully if there was a namespace along the line of 'API' or 'DevDocs'. Instructions on how to do this can be found here. Thecoshman (talk) 10:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

• Done. -- N3X15 (talk) 09:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

English English or American English?

I would assume that American English is the preferred English for this wiki. Though, I think it should be stated clearly so that we can avoid ping-pong edits between American and English English. If we get to vote in this matter, I would prefer English English, on account of being English, but not that fussed overall. Thecoshman (talk) 08:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

• I don't see how theatre/theater, etc. would result in pingponging, as either are valid and aren't worth editing over. Best thing to do would be to leave rules instructing users not to bother editing minor dialect-specific things. As for measurements, we should be using metric anyway, as KSP deals with a lot of science (obviously). I'll (hopefully) start working on rules tomorrow. -- N3X15 (talk) 09:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Forum links have changed

Old was kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/, new is forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/, which leads to 404s on some links on this page. --Kreuzung (talk) 13:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

RoboJeb is set up to fix this. -- N3X15 ^{(C · T · E)} 22:58, 25 October 2012 (UTC)