User talk:XZise

Planetbox templates

Thanks a lot for your work on Template:Planetbox and related templates! It's really nice to have them cleaned up so that they no longer require redundant information. — Elembis (talk) 13:44, 18 February 2013 (CST)

Spoiler Template

Hello XZise. I noticed that you seem to know your way around MediaWiki syntax. Could you create a "spoiler" template for the wiki which hides content until the user clicks on it? That would be very useful for hiding information about easter eggs, like some of the screenshots on the page about Mün. --Crush (talk) 08:38, 7 March 2013 (CST)

Terminal velocity - chart on Atmosphere

Thanks for fixing it! The many Kerbals that would otherwise have died trying to fudge that value experimentally are most grateful! (They will, more likely than not, be headed for a much more creative death now... for the sake of science, of course.)

-- Joren (talk) 16:51, 27 March 2013 (CDT)

Heh... I didn't even notice that was using a template. I really should have investigated it further instead of just pressing the delete button... pressing the launch button is much more fun, anyway :) -- Joren (talk) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (CDT)

Error caused by Template:Sigfigs and Template:OrbitAltitude

Hello XZise. Your recent edits to these two templates caused an error message on the page Mün (old version with the error message). I fixed it temporarily by removing the Sigfigs template around the OrbitalAltitude template, but you might want to look into it. --Crush (talk) 07:50, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

This is simply because {{OrbitAltitude}} doesn't return only a number (like 1337.42) and instead format it (1 337.42). Now {{Sigfigs}} expects a plain number. To fix this either remove sigfigs (preferred as it's not useful to use it in cases like your's) or use {{OrbitAltitude/Core}}. Unfortunately every celestials article uses {{OrbitAltitude}} indirectly via the {{Planetbox}} so “What links here” is not of great use. — xZise [talk] 08:03, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

Okay I looked in all articles. I couldn't find any new location of this error. As there is no need to make OrbitAltitude compatible with Sigfigs I would leave it as it is. — xZise [talk] 08:26, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

PS: {{Tl}} creates easily those cool looking clickable templates. — xZise [talk] 08:08, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

/Data

XZise, the problem of using one data template is that the template is in english. Gusta (talk) 12:31, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

Hmmm but Kerbol/de or Kerbol/ru have it in German/Russian? In some languages (e.g. Swedish) the translations are missing. But then somebody with Swedish skills should do it. — xZise [talk] 12:47, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

Ah I saw that you are active in the Portuguese Wikipedia and Planetbox doesn't support this language. I guess you saw this edit and marking Kerbol/pt/Data for deletion. If you want to add the Portuguese translation simply edit {{Planetbox}}. — xZise [talk] 12:53, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

You mean creating Template:Planetbox/pt ? Gusta (talk) 12:55, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

“If you want to add the Portuguese translation simply edit {{Planetbox}}” No not creating a /pt translation (there is no {{Planetbox/de}}. For example I want to add the translation of mass for Klingon I can do this by adding “tlh=ngI'” to

{{lang|en=[[w:Mass|Mass]]|nl=[[w:nl:Massa|Massa]]|fr=[[w:fr:Masse|Masse]]|pl=[[w:pl:Masa_(fizyka)|Masa]]|ru=[[w:ru:Масса|Масса]]|de=[[w:de:Masse (Physik)|Masse]]}}

As you can see there are already translations into Dutch, French, Polish, Russian and German. Now if you are on a page with /fr as suffix (e.g. Kerbol/fr) it selects the French text. If there is no text in the “active” language it will use by default English. As {{lang}} doesn't understand tlh/Klingon it won't work ;) — xZise [talk] 13:19, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

Ohh, understood now. Thanks a lot!. Gusta (talk) 13:29, 7 April 2013 (CDT)

Chat Room Idea

Hi^^ XZise

I was thinking of making a chat room for this wiki but i need lots of help Kerbal Space Program Chat Room still not so sure if it going to work but worth a shot

Before you say anything like:

• This wiki does not need a chat room.

• It will not work

The chat room idea is a great way to get people to talk to each other instead of using other users talk link for non-important inquiries about KSP or just well, life get to know people and discuss bugs, fix, updates, mods, muddles, ideas and tips etc. - Nova Storm (Talk)

So, er, what would it add that the IRC channel does not? UmbralRaptor (talk) 22:53, 1 May 2013 (CDT)

Technically it would be asynchronous. If you have a question but the person who can answer it isn't online at the moment it is still possible to answer later while the person who ask the question can be already offline. But apart from that, I don't see an advantage. — xZise [talk] 03:29, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

Reply to message.

Hello, and thank you for your message! I think I've got most of it figured out at the moment, but I'll let you know if I need anything. :)

Nice :) and maybe sign (--~~~~) your post, so I know who talks to me ;) — xZise [talk] 16:16, 1 May 2013 (CDT)

Mun Tutorial

Thanks for your helpful amendments to my edit of the Mun Landing tutorial. Great stuff! - Kerloyov (talk) 11:45, 13 May 2013 (GMT)

Dito ;) PS: How are you able to show the GMT/UTC time and not CDT? — xZise [talk] 06:40, 13 May 2013 (CDT)

Thanks very much for the Planetbox…

And for the Zh-cn or Zh-Hans stuff, RHZhao firstly started the Chinese Wiki as Zh-cn. I have held a discussion about whether to move it to Zh-Hans, and the result is most of the users prefer to keep it. So it's like this now.

And… A question, is there a grammar to modify the language name displayed on Languange Box? The default name isn't like those in Wikipedia…

All in all, thanks very much:)

Okay, so zh-cn and zh-hans are the same? This may be relevant for templates like {{lang}}. About your “Language Box”. Do you mean {{Main Page Layout/Language Box}}? This uses {{Mp-lang}} to link to another language and uses the language code provided by {{#language}}. So there is not much to do, but when I'm on the English Main Page the Chinese link to their Main Page is written as 中文. Now the language box shows 中文（中国大陆）‎which looks for me (I don't have a clue about Chinese) identical, except for the part in the brackets. But this is simply because of the -cn

• {{#language:zh}} → 中文
• {{#language:zh-cn}} → 中文（中国大陆）‎

So I don't know what you want to do there. And btw, would be nice if you ~~~~ sign your posts so I know who I'm talking to ;) — xZise [talk] 13:06, 14 May 2013 (CDT)

In fact not the same… The codes like Zh-cn, Zh-tw, Zh-hk etc. are Chinese languages classified by location; the Zh-Hans and Zh-Hant show the major difference branches: Simplified and Tranditional. The Simplified Chinese(Zh-Hans) is mostly being used in China Mainland, so Zh-Hans and Zh-cn can be partly regarded as the same, but not the whole. As the KSP Wiki in Zh-Hans has been set up as Zh-cn, it will be inconvenient to move.

While… I have an idea… If in future many branches of Chinese join in(as there're already players in Taiwan, Hongkong…), this way maybe good… Just tell me:

How to set a page as a redirect page? (Visitors get redirected to another page instantly, while this page still has the properties of ordinary pages) (Sorry that I haven't had much experience in Wiki)

Do ordinary users have the access to create a fully functional template? Thanks:) --Cesrate (talk) 07:22, 15 May 2013 (CDT)

Uhh... After some explorations, you know... I did it. Although I don't know whether will these come in use (depending on the "Wiki motiviation" of players in these places)...

Here is what I did...

Main_Page/zh

Template:Main_Page_Layout_for_zh

Template:Main_Page_Layout_for_zh/Language_Box_for_zh

Now the only thing is {{if lang}} doesn't support the zh-tw, zh-hk, zh-mo... , but it's not a big problem. The support could be added later when someone starts to translate the Wiki to zh-tw etc.

And... With the current business being done, I'll start working on translations (and maybe add some new things) in June... Don't know whether the others will do...

And, have a nice day:) --Cesrate (talk) 09:08, 15 May 2013 (CDT)

Wow be only 6 hrs away and thousand of new pages are now there ;) Okay maybe not thousands. I have some questions:

• {{Main Page Layout/Language Box for zh}} can be deleted?
• {{Main Page Layout for zh}}: What exactly makes this different from {{Main Page Layout}}? It looks like the only difference is, that your template uses {{Main Page Layout for zh/Language Box for zh}}? Now why don't use {{Main Page Layout/Language Box}} with all Chinese languages?

Now there already exists Mk1 Cockpit/zh. In what Chinese language is this now written? And how does the Chinese Wikipedia handle this? It looks like there is only a zh Wikipedia. Maybe (to make it not so crowded here) it is applicable to this wiki? — xZise [talk] 10:54, 15 May 2013 (CDT)

Just to make other languages' language box not crowd:) I think as the Language Box shows the major languages, it would be better for the branches to be shown in a sub-box. Although I should keep it sync to the Main_Page_Lay_Out... It's not difficult as well. Is there a better way to achieve this? As I don't know much about codes in Wiki, this method is what I could come up with…

As for the Mk1 Cockpit/zh, it's a translation test by a member here. It's of little use now and after I move it to zh-cn you're free to delete it.

As I have started it, I will maintain it, until it's proved really of no use… And it will be good if we can modify the language name shown in Language Box, is that possible?

And I hope the sub-language box could come into use… Depending on if there's an encyclopediaholic in that places:) --Cesrate (talk) 18:58, 15 May 2013 (CDT)

The Mk1Cockpit/zh is really of no use… It's just a test + stub… Free to delete… --Cesrate (talk) 19:03, 15 May 2013 (CDT)

Okay I moved (and not deleted) Mk1 Cockpit/zh-cn. User:N3X15 already deleted your “failed template” and I added zh-cn to the language box on the left. Did I use the correct text? And I'm looking to the two main page templates. Maybe there could be something simplified. — xZise [talk] 17:15, 17 May 2013 (CDT)

About {{if lang}}

{{if lang}} seems to work well in normal pages, but in Categories (like Category:Celestials/ru) the {{if lang}} in templates (like {{Celestial Bodies}} ) doesn't work. Are there ways to fix this without building a new template? Cesrate (talk) 22:24, 15 May 2013 (CDT)

Hmmm, okay I maybe have a solution. Now the problem is that in the category namespace it don't know subpages. When you have Kerbin/ru it shows you a link to Kerbin directly below the articlename. Now in categories it don't work. All language temples like {{if lang}} and {{lang}} depend on this. — xZise [talk] 13:29, 16 May 2013 (CDT)

{{lang}} support for zh-cn?

Sorry to disturb, but {{lang}} seems not work with zh-cn. The example's here. {{Radial Size}}. If there's no mistake, the {{lang}} doesn't support zh-cn. Thanks very much for the supports Cesrate (talk) 07:30, 17 May 2013 (CDT)

Oh, thanks. The layout isn't a problem as I'm in charge of its maintenance unless it affects the wiki's efficiency or becomes useless(wiki builder RHZhao sometimes talks in Tranditional Chinese, so I believe zh-tw... page will come into being in future).

All in all, thanks very much for the support:) Very kind of you. —Cesrate (talk) 18:42, 17 May 2013 (CDT)

What is "Rotational/Inertial transition" in Reference Frame table?

Hi, the wiki's going well now, but we have a problem that couldn't be made clear by ourselves.As the title shows, what is "Rotational/Inertial transition"? We're not sure how to deal with it except guesses, so could you offer some detailed information about this?Thanks a lot. ——Cesrate (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

I have no idea. It is one of the mysteries which I couldn't solve yet. I created a new topic in the template talk. — xZise [talk] 10:17, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

Maybe I should ask Forum… ——Cesrate (talk) 15:24, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

Oh, I think I got the answer, it's really the change from rotational reference frame to interial reference frame. The rotational frame follows the planets' rotation, making it easier to describe the ship's motion when it's close to planet. ——Cesrate (talk) 15:32, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

So is it the height when the speed indicator changes from Surface to Orbital speed? That's strange, after all it seems to be 100,000 m for just about everything except Dres. I'll try checking that tomorrow. --Dgelessus (talk) 15:51, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

I don't think so that is when it changes between Surface/Orbital speed. In Scott Manley's video it changes way before the Ap is above 100 km. But to be honest I don't understand Cesrate's explanation. Is it simply an internal programming thing, that it is either relative to Kerbin (rotational frame) or relative to Kerbol (inertial frame)? — xZise [talk] 17:15, 21 May 2013 (CDT)